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OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

#141
Get your jab, you peasant scum

Writhing there under our thumb

And say to Ben you couldn't keep

A Republic, when with him you weep

On foreign plane, your rights as gone

As your life, while we soldier on

All the free to subjugate

Within Administrative State

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

#142
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So, here's the thing. You don't catch an infectious disease through an act of God. You catch it from an act of man. Right now, you have zero recourse if your employer, or your co-workers are creating a dangerous environment. You have no legal standing if your employer's policies are the reason that you catch COVID, which can be financially ruinous - or lethal. Your employer is explicitly protected from any liability…

> So, here's the thing. You don't catch an infectious disease through an act of God. You catch it from an act of man.

I think the same but with a different tack. If you get an infectious disease from another person, and that person didn’t want the disease either and wouldn’t want to spread it, then why are they?

How do people not know they have Covid and are giving it to their friends, coworkers, etc?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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post #85

I'm one shot in but think this is a huge government overreach to require this from businesses.

How is this different from requiring hard hats? A hard hat won’t save you from getting a cut on your head from a dropped hammer but it will save you from having it break your head in two. Should OSHA stop requiring PPE?

Does a hat produce irreversible changes in your body whose long-term effects are unknown?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

#144

Biden: Monoclonal antibodies have been shown to reduce hospitalization of UNVACCINATED covid patients by 70% Also Biden, in the same speech: We're gonna force everyone we can get away with forcing to take a shot still under emergency use authorization that is only supposed to be valid if there is NO other viable treatment.

The Covid monoclonals are also only available under EUAs. And no one is being strapped down and vaccinated, some consequences are being imposed for some choices. For instance, for workers at larger companies that don't get vaccinated, there is an expectation that the employer will check weekly for negative test results.

I’ve worked remotely for 12 years. I should obviously be exempt, right? Why not?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Citizen, our records indicate you ate more than your mandate controlled 100g of chocolate and only ran 2.95mi of your mandatory 3mi on our freely available sidewalks. Your employment has been terminated. You many apply for unemployment benefits after our records show compliance. Combating obesity is for the good of society.

I remember having a beer at night with an Apple employee who halfway through started walking around the table. Apparently his smart watch was telling him his group of 5 people were under their target miles for the day and he had to walk a mile right now to have his daily quote done. He didn’t want to disappoint his fellow staff. Including his boss I think. Not quite what you posted but it certainty is similar.

What you're probably referring to is the "June Fitness Challenge", which is completely optional and just for fun (I don't do it, neither does my boss or half my team). You get a t-shirt or something if your team has a certain number of "active days" per month. It's not as draconian as it sounds.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

#146
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Are you guys irreplaceable?

absolutely. I was hired this year to learn how the hell all the complicated stuff the 55- and 65-year-old programmers do every day works, and I've only learned a fraction of it so far.

Is this the whole issue, that everyone drawing a line in the sand wrongly believes they can’t be replaced?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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post #85

I'm one shot in but think this is a huge government overreach to require this from businesses.

How is this different from requiring hard hats? A hard hat won’t save you from getting a cut on your head from a dropped hammer but it will save you from having it break your head in two. Should OSHA stop requiring PPE?

From what others are saying, it's the unknown long term effects that are the difference.

What if, knowing what we do now about it, OSHA required asbestos-lined jackets?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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I think “prevent” is too imprecise a term here. The vaccines don’t eliminate the risk of spreading the virus to others. They do materially reduce the risk of spreading the virus to others.

If this were the case, shouldn't Israel have fewer cases now? No other country has more infections per million than Israel, with a vaccination rate much higher than the US.

Israel's overall vaccination rate is actually not that high. They were first out the gate, but tapered. They have also found the recent spike in cases to be focused in areas with low vaccination rates [1].

With the delta variant every unvaccinated person will likely end up becoming infected at some point. These unvaccinated pockets are where the large spikes are coming from, especially for severe disease.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1420059122725183491.html

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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post #113
post #85

I'm one shot in but think this is a huge government overreach to require this from businesses.

How is this different from requiring hard hats? A hard hat won’t save you from getting a cut on your head from a dropped hammer but it will save you from having it break your head in two. Should OSHA stop requiring PPE?

A hard hat isn't a medical procedure. Some die from this vaccine.

I weighed up the options and decided it was by far the lower risk option.

I think people need to be free to make that choice.

Freedom is so valuable.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

#150

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

> Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread?

Why do you think it doesn't prevent spread? While breakthrough infections make all the news, the vaccine does lessen the chance of catching COVID if exposed. Less people catching COVID, less spread.

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