If they violated rules previously and got booted (and then sued in a very public battle), why would they be allowed back?
Pretty sure the judge said they could be reinstated months ago, with IAP held in escrow until verdict.
Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
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Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#12I gotta say, this is outright spiteful on Epic's behalf. Not necessarily bad, but it's always interesting to watch when companies make things personal like this. It's almost certainly more trouble than it's financially worth to relaunch Fortnite's iOS build in a single country , but I suppose we're here to see how they react.
Really? Of all the countries in the world, Korea is probably the most fanatical about gaming, and the payoff for getting Fortnite into the Apple Store would be considerable.
So true. Starcraft was the "self-proclaimed" national sport of South Korea for quite some time.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#13If they violated rules previously and got booted (and then sued in a very public battle), why would they be allowed back?
Cuz when u have as much market power as Apple, you don’t really have a choice in granting someone market access to your platform. A refusal is potential grounds for a antitrust case. Assuming ofcourse, epic stays within the lines of apple’s other rules which hasn’t been challenged in court.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#14I gotta say, this is outright spiteful on Epic's behalf. Not necessarily bad, but it's always interesting to watch when companies make things personal like this. It's almost certainly more trouble than it's financially worth to relaunch Fortnite's iOS build in a single country , but I suppose we're here to see how they react.
Really? Of all the countries in the world, Korea is probably the most fanatical about gaming, and the payoff for getting Fortnite into the Apple Store would be considerable.
> Korea is probably the most fanatical about gaming
But Fortnite has never cared about Korea, most of the fanaticism on gaming is for PC games (mobile non-casual games were never big), and Fortnite has never even had any relevance here.
As a Korean, it feels very, very bitter and spiteful for Epic to mention Korea like this. As if... Epic has ever thought of Korea as a somewhat meaningful market for Fortnite.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#15Does anyone have specific details on if the Korea law[0], which Epic is using as a basis for this request[1], has the ability to make apple reinstate Epic's account? Since the ban happened long before this law was even proposed, it wouldn't seem like the law would be retroactive. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28366063 1: https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/1436105346184056832
The law isn't even active yet, to say nothing of retroactive.
It just only passed the National Assembly (i.e. Congress), not even announced by the government. It probably won't happen, but theoretically the government can reject the law as well.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Apple is legally required to remove the rule they violated.
But it wasn’t the law then when they violated it.
Rejecting an application for app store reinstatement would presumably be a new ban, legally speaking, and would be covered by the new law.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#17I gotta say, this is outright spiteful on Epic's behalf. Not necessarily bad, but it's always interesting to watch when companies make things personal like this. It's almost certainly more trouble than it's financially worth to relaunch Fortnite's iOS build in a single country , but I suppose we're here to see how they react.
It is not spiteful to demand what is yours by right. Apple has been abusing their market position for years, and Korea is making legal inroads on fixing that situation. It is well that Epic should demand Apple follow this long overdue law.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#18I gotta say, this is outright spiteful on Epic's behalf. Not necessarily bad, but it's always interesting to watch when companies make things personal like this. It's almost certainly more trouble than it's financially worth to relaunch Fortnite's iOS build in a single country , but I suppose we're here to see how they react.
> It's almost certainly more trouble than it's financially worth This is the same company that nuked their money-printer of a mobile game to prove a point.
I wonder why both sides turned down Gonzales-Rodgers' proposition to allow the game back on and place Apple's 30% in an escrow account until the case is decided.
https://twitter.com/PatrickMcGee_/status/1310648048976982016...
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#19Does anyone have specific details on if the Korea law[0], which Epic is using as a basis for this request[1], has the ability to make apple reinstate Epic's account? Since the ban happened long before this law was even proposed, it wouldn't seem like the law would be retroactive. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28366063 1: https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/1436105346184056832
The law isn't even active yet, to say nothing of retroactive. It just only passed the National Assembly (i.e. Congress), not even announced by the government. It probably won't happen, but theoretically the government can reject the law as well.
Sounds like a PR play then.
Re: Epic tests Apple with new request: let us relaunch Fortnite in Korea
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it wasn’t the law then when they violated it.
Rejecting an application for app store reinstatement would presumably be a new ban, legally speaking, and would be covered by the new law.
Hmm, this assumes Epic is allowed to submit to begin with. Look at it another way: Apple acted willfully to terminate their developer and business relationship with Epic per their developer agreement, and this was an Executive decision, not a bureaucratic one. So a new submission isn’t likely to result in a “rejection” so much as a termination of the account that submitted it.
I’m not familiar with Korean law, but a change in any law typically isn’t so cut and dry as to obviously result in a new outcome given the same actors and the same circumstances. Obviously Epic will argue that it should be more cut and dry because it is in their interests to make that argument, but Apple also has their own rights and interests to protect and the means to do so.