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Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by mc32 »

robotresearcher wrote: post #61
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #17

I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…

> He was quashed in the debates in lieu of ratings What does this mean? I know what the words mean, but can't catch your meaning.

I think poster thinks Andrew was not called upon often because other candidates had better draw (for their ratings). Back in the debates it was obvious the party had some favorites and some less than favorite candidates. Andrew was among the latter.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by danrocks »

notJim wrote: post #6

Yang has never been my top choice, but I think he's generally a good dude. However a third party could be disastrous for the democrats, who can only just barely win elections due to the current structure of the electorate. Hopefully he will be more strategic than that, however. A third party could be really beneficial in some areas where democrats dominate everything.

Maybe there should be a strong third party precisely for the reason you're describing - could be disastrous for the Democrats. It could also be disastrous for the Republicans. My point being that, if a third party is sufficiently strong to cause significant damage to either of the two major parties, then said affected party would be fairly motivated to help bring about electoral reforms that we badly need.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by [deleted] »

kenhwang wrote: post #69
UncleOxidant wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suppose the question ultimately will be whether his party pull more votes from Democrats or Republicans I think it's pretty clear that he'd pull more Dems than Reps. That would be a very bad thing in 2024, so you'll probably see a lot of encouragement from Republicans and an lot of discouragement from Democrats.

After his performance in the NY mayoral election where he went from frontrunner to 4th place behind people who never had a national spotlight, he's going to be pulling votes from nobody.

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Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by _6vhu »

momothereal wrote: post #43
_6vhu wrote: post #29

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Canadian here. I understand the appeal of ranked choice voting for citizens, but I don't see either the Liberals or Conservatives supporting it. On the Liberal side, they will always have the idea of strategic voting, where they tell progressive voters "A vote for the NDP/Greens is a wasted vote that will get the Conservatives elected." On the Conservative side, the next closest party is the Liberals. So their voter…

I think we'd see a more left-leaning government overall though. But it would essentially be a permanent minority in parliament, which is not appealing to some people who want a more active government. > PPC is irrelevant Let's just hope they stay that way, the guy in my (very liberal) riding is completely off the handle with antivax stuff on twitter.

With society becoming more left-leaning with the growth of the NDP, this will pull Conservatives more to the left perhaps creating a void on the right that the PPC may fill.

For now, the PPC is irrelevant, but that may soon change. Only time will tell.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by DoubleDerper »

Ranked-choice voting could be make the most meaningfully positive impact on US democracy in decades. Regardless of your politics.

More messaging, coverage, and support for ranked-choice voting is necessary, and we should all hope to see more of it in coming months/years.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by CPLX »

ngokevin wrote: post #34
CPLX wrote: post #20

In related news, I will be launching my own version of the NBA, where I am excited to be the starting point guard for the #1 ranked team.

It's ironic to be mocking this Hacker News, where people every day are launching upstart ideas to take on massive incumbents. Launching your own basketball league isn't even that ridiculous! I could see a basketball league with influencers that's more about the entertainment and characters versus skill level having a chance.

A national political party is a large group of people united within a formal organization around specific ideology helmed by leaders who hold the support of that group.

A national basketball league is a medium sized group of people who play basketball.

As you can see, my plan for a basketball league and Andrew Yang's plan for a political party are facing a similar dilemma.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by elzbardico »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #55
Barrin92 wrote: post #51

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>It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be I think the question is what the narrative for him is. His views probably most closely resemble what the Niskanen-Center dubbed 'liberaltarian' a few years ago and that doesn't have much of a constituency. This sort of slightly wonkish, business man, tech bro hybrid will find some voters among the kind of young male demographic you find here or on reddit but…

> Liberals aren't going to support the Milton Friedman-esque UBI ideas. Isn't that a liberal idea??

Originally, no. Because originally UBI was designed to be used not as another social program, but in lieu of existing programs. When Friedman invented it, the idea was to get rid of things like public schools or whatever other public welfare program, fire all the public workers involved and instead give money to people so they would choose those services in the open market.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by xvector »

ngokevin wrote: post #12
tptacek wrote: post #8

Didn't he get absolutely stomped in his last two runs?

He went from a virtual unknown normal dude to the last six standing the Democratic Presidental primaries, outlasting senators including Kamala Harris. And he made UBI a household idea, a major factor to lobbying for cash relief during the pandemic. He did get stomped in the mayoral run. I followed it closely and it felt as though the media had it out for him.

> as though the media had it out for him.

I feel like there has been a lot of anti-Asian bias in the media, especially around that time.

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Post by _ktx2 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #55
Barrin92 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be I think the question is what the narrative for him is. His views probably most closely resemble what the Niskanen-Center dubbed 'liberaltarian' a few years ago and that doesn't have much of a constituency. This sort of slightly wonkish, business man, tech bro hybrid will find some voters among the kind of young male demographic you find here or on reddit but…

> Liberals aren't going to support the Milton Friedman-esque UBI ideas. Isn't that a liberal idea??

I think the poster is saying liberals won't support both. I think they're wrong, I support and see a future with both, but I think a future with both is a very careful series of choices we will have to make.
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