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Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by robotresearcher »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #17

I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…

> He was quashed in the debates in lieu of ratings

What does this mean? I know what the words mean, but can't catch your meaning.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by perardi »

OK, that’s nice.

How do you get on the ballot in every single state for the Presidency?

Are you going to run competitive House and Senate races in every single state?

What’s your plan of action for getting the debate committees to allow a third-party into the debates if polling isn’t good enough?

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by danrocks »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #55
Barrin92 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be I think the question is what the narrative for him is. His views probably most closely resemble what the Niskanen-Center dubbed 'liberaltarian' a few years ago and that doesn't have much of a constituency. This sort of slightly wonkish, business man, tech bro hybrid will find some voters among the kind of young male demographic you find here or on reddit but…

> Liberals aren't going to support the Milton Friedman-esque UBI ideas. Isn't that a liberal idea??

Friedman did support it, though: https://medium.com/basic-income/why-milton-friedman-supporte...

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by dsr_ »

tenderholdings wrote: post #57

A Gallup poll from August found that 29% of Americans identified as Democrats, 28% identified as Republican, and 40% as Independent. [ https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx ] So, more people consider themselves independent than members of either party. If Andrew Yang can create the "Independent Party", perhaps they would get the most votes.

Americans love to consider themselves independent, but that doesn't mean they all have the same political beliefs or even that they are moderate; for the most part, "independent" means that they will vote mostly for one party but like to occasionally vote for individual candidates that they personally like, regardless of party.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by jw433 »

robotresearcher wrote: post #61
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #17

I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…

> He was quashed in the debates in lieu of ratings What does this mean? I know what the words mean, but can't catch your meaning.

word soup

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by robotresearcher »

perardi wrote: post #62

OK, that’s nice. How do you get on the ballot in every single state for the Presidency? Are you going to run competitive House and Senate races in every single state? What’s your plan of action for getting the debate committees to allow a third-party into the debates if polling isn’t good enough?

You don't need to win to influence the agenda for the better.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by Steko »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #17

I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…

> In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by either dems or reps

He was one of two Democratic candidates that had significant right wing support. As far as Dem's not taking him seriously, a big part of that is because he had no political experience and America's experiment in electing someone like that was an ongoing dumpster fire.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by kenhwang »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #26
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #17

I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…

> I suppose the question ultimately will be whether his party pull more votes from Democrats or Republicans I think it's pretty clear that he'd pull more Dems than Reps. That would be a very bad thing in 2024, so you'll probably see a lot of encouragement from Republicans and an lot of discouragement from Democrats.

After his performance in the NY mayoral election where he went from frontrunner to 4th place behind people who never had a national spotlight, he's going to be pulling votes from nobody.

Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party

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Post by dragonwriter »

notJim wrote: post #6

Yang has never been my top choice, but I think he's generally a good dude. However a third party could be disastrous for the democrats, who can only just barely win elections due to the current structure of the electorate. Hopefully he will be more strategic than that, however. A third party could be really beneficial in some areas where democrats dominate everything.

> However a third party could be disastrous for the democrats,

The US has several hundred political parties. New ones rarely move the needle on national campaigns even on the margins, and the exceptions invariably are founded by candidates that made major marks in recent-prior national campaigns as an independent without a party apparatus energizing their nee party drive, and still underperform the founder’s independent campaign before fading into irrelevance.

Yang might launch an Nth party, but it’ll make less difference in 2024 than Kanye West did in 2020. to

> A third party could be really beneficial in some areas where democrats dominate everything.

In a number of those places, nationally-minor parties (e.g., Greens) already outperform Republicans (and in some, they dominate local offices, though Democrats tend to win the State/Federal ones.)

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