Whatever Yang does, it will be sensational and attention-getting, regardless of the outcome.
Andrew Yang to launch a third party
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Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#22Yang has never been my top choice, but I think he's generally a good dude. However a third party could be disastrous for the democrats, who can only just barely win elections due to the current structure of the electorate. Hopefully he will be more strategic than that, however. A third party could be really beneficial in some areas where democrats dominate everything.
Ranked voting would make this less of an issue, but good luck getting current politicians to support it.
The NY Democratic primary was RCV, and Yang still lost.
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#23Seems like you'd have better luck trying to capture the GOP than start another party. There is a large population of Republican voters that is not really "conservative", but just anti-Democrat. Someone who captured this base while remaining appealing to some moderates/independents would do quite well.
He wouldn’t be able to capture the GOP endorsing UBI and universal healthcare.
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#24Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#25Seems like you'd have better luck trying to capture the GOP than start another party. There is a large population of Republican voters that is not really "conservative", but just anti-Democrat. Someone who captured this base while remaining appealing to some moderates/independents would do quite well.
He appears popular with moderates and reactionaries to identity politics, but the share of supporters probably wouldn't be higher were he in the GOP, not to mention that his values / platform are staunchly Dem.
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#26I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…
> I suppose the question ultimately will be whether his party pull more votes from Democrats or Republicans
I think it's pretty clear that he'd pull more Dems than Reps. That would be a very bad thing in 2024, so you'll probably see a lot of encouragement from Republicans and an lot of discouragement from Democrats.
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#27Yang has never been my top choice, but I think he's generally a good dude. However a third party could be disastrous for the democrats, who can only just barely win elections due to the current structure of the electorate. Hopefully he will be more strategic than that, however. A third party could be really beneficial in some areas where democrats dominate everything.
I think Yang is a little like Ross Perot. He tells the truth but no one wants to listen and those who think he's a threat ridicule him and bash him --that doesn't mean I agree with all his points, but on the whole, I think I agree with him more then others.
Who knows, if he runs as a third party candidate, I hope he does well. I'd probably give him my vote. The two incumbent parties trip over themselves to please entrenched interests and don't take the interest and plight of the people they represent seriously.
If people had taken Ross seriously we would not be in the economic mess we find ourselves with much of our manufacturing and know-how outsourced in return for some new financial products which only the wealthy benefit from. You go Andrew!
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#28Seems like you'd have better luck trying to capture the GOP than start another party. There is a large population of Republican voters that is not really "conservative", but just anti-Democrat. Someone who captured this base while remaining appealing to some moderates/independents would do quite well.
> Seems like you'd have better luck trying to capture the GOP than start another party.
Or if someone like Yang but more socially conservative tried to capture the GOP.
Then in 2024 when neither of them win their ticket, but both do fairly well, getting lots of publicity, they join forces to run as a 3rd party. Obviously the establishment would try hard to squash them -- but tens of millions hate the establishment!
> There is a large population of Republican voters that is not really "conservative", but just anti-Democrat.
And a lot of Democrat voters who don't like the Dems, just dislike the Reps more.
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#29Yang has never been my top choice, but I think he's generally a good dude. However a third party could be disastrous for the democrats, who can only just barely win elections due to the current structure of the electorate. Hopefully he will be more strategic than that, however. A third party could be really beneficial in some areas where democrats dominate everything.
Pretty much what's happening in Canada. The NDP (left) currently polls at about 20% which would usually go to Liberals (center-left). Liberals and Conservatives (right) are now tied at 35% because of this. Unfortunately the current Liberal PM promised "election reform" last election but didn't follow through. Now he might lose his minority gov.
Canadian here.
I understand the appeal of ranked choice voting for citizens, but I don't see either the Liberals or Conservatives supporting it.
On the Liberal side, they will always have the idea of strategic voting, where they tell progressive voters "A vote for the NDP/Greens is a wasted vote that will get the Conservatives elected."
On the Conservative side, the next closest party is the Liberals. So their voter base will choose Liberals as their second option (Assuming the PPC is irrelevant).
Re: Andrew Yang to launch a third party
#30I registered as a Democrat to vote for Andrew in the CA primary. I find his view of the state of the USA is much more current and much less clouded by the twisted incentives that drive so many career politicians. He has positions on just about every topic and explains the rationale behind them. It makes me wonder what the narrative against him would be. In the 2020 primaries and election, he wasn't taken seriously by…
> I suppose the question ultimately will be whether his party pull more votes from Democrats or Republicans I think it's pretty clear that he'd pull more Dems than Reps. That would be a very bad thing in 2024, so you'll probably see a lot of encouragement from Republicans and an lot of discouragement from Democrats.
The real ultimate question is whether post-Trumpism will unite the Republican Party or result in a schism among Conservatives by 2024.