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OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by captainredbeard »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #18
captainredbeard wrote: post #11

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

I think it’s fine if you refuse to be vaccinated as long as you agree to not use hospital resources if you do contract the virus.

I would accept that trade.

Let's explore this line of reasoning, Mr. Dehumanizer:

What about people who engage in risky sex? Should they be refused treatment?

What about fat people?

What about people who don't exercise?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by TigeriusKirk »

asquabventured wrote: post #13

I refuse to comply with this over reach and I’m fully vaccinated

I vaccinated within days of becoming eligible and I'm 100% against this mandate. To such an extent that I'll become a single-issue voter over it.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by toomuchtodo »

captainredbeard wrote: post #21
toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s fine if you refuse to be vaccinated as long as you agree to not use hospital resources if you do contract the virus.

I would accept that trade. Let's explore this line of reasoning, Mr. Dehumanizer: What about people who engage in risky sex? Should they be refused treatment? What about fat people? What about people who don't exercise?

False equivalency. The vaccine costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and people are still refusing it. That bed or ventilator can go to someone responsible. If someone chooses not to be vaccinated, they are choosing to die at home.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by ghaff »

adamrezich wrote: post #17
reidjs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you guys irreplaceable?

absolutely. I was hired this year to learn how the hell all the complicated stuff the 55- and 65-year-old programmers do every day works, and I've only learned a fraction of it so far.

The world is full of “irreplaceable” people.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by captainredbeard »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #23
captainredbeard wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would accept that trade. Let's explore this line of reasoning, Mr. Dehumanizer: What about people who engage in risky sex? Should they be refused treatment? What about fat people? What about people who don't exercise?

False equivalency. The vaccine costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and people are still refusing it. That bed or ventilator can go to someone responsible. If someone chooses not to be vaccinated, they are choosing to die at home.

"Avoiding risky sex costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and they are refusing it. That medical treatment could go to someone responsible. Choose not to have safe sex, choose to die at home."

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by toomuchtodo »

captainredbeard wrote: post #25
toomuchtodo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False equivalency. The vaccine costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and people are still refusing it. That bed or ventilator can go to someone responsible. If someone chooses not to be vaccinated, they are choosing to die at home.

"Avoiding risky sex costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and they are refusing it. That medical treatment could go to someone responsible. Choose not to have safe sex, choose to die at home."

No one gets an STD at the grocery store or their workplace from close proximity to the infected. Very few people die from STDs (comparatively speaking to COVID) and they are not overloading hospitals.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by tfehring »

captainredbeard wrote: post #11

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

I think “prevent” is too imprecise a term here. The vaccines don’t eliminate the risk of spreading the virus to others. They do materially reduce the risk of spreading the virus to others.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by captainredbeard »

tfehring wrote: post #27
captainredbeard wrote: post #11

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

I think “prevent” is too imprecise a term here. The vaccines don’t eliminate the risk of spreading the virus to others. They do materially reduce the risk of spreading the virus to others.

How much pro-social good is required to force me to take a medical treatment I do not consent to?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by loonster »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #15
asquabventured wrote: post #13

I refuse to comply with this over reach and I’m fully vaccinated

Sadly, there won't be nearly enough who feel as you do. But I wholeheartedly applaud your statement!

It only has to be enough in certain industries.

Trucking, food production, Oil & Gas, powerplant workers, linemen, water treatment, etc.

In those essential industries, a small percentage of people walking out may wreck havoc on the whole nation. Those are also the same people that I expect are more anti covid vaccine.

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