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Hong Kong: Police Raid Tiananmen Square Museum

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Re: Hong Kong: Police Raid Tiananmen Square Museum

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I visited this museum in 2016. It was incredible to see this on Chinese soil. Hong Kong had a mere 20 years of being truly Hong Kong, free of the UK and generally free of China. Now it is just more China.

Communist China has only had a mere 100 years compared to it's 5000 year history.

Re: Hong Kong: Police Raid Tiananmen Square Museum

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Completely understandable. Why have a museum for an event that never happened? /s

I know it is a joke, but they do not deny the event. They just put it into a different context. It goes something like: 2000 lives for 20 years of stability. Well, actually 30 years now.

That would be an interesting tradeoff conversation if true.

But they basically do deny the event by claiming only 300 dead and then villainizing the victims of an atrocity.

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Interesting to see the parallel crackdowns on the glorification of separatism in both USA and PRC this week, with the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue in the former Confederate capital, and now this.

One was a traitor trying to keep his slaves, the other was fighting for Rights in China.

I wasn't aware Robert E Lee ever traveled to China.

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I really wish the US and Europe would get *lls and punish China for breaking the treaty with Hong Kong and the UK

Punish them how? The global economy is heavy reliant on a cooperative China.

UK have made it clear they aren’t part of the EU so why would the EU care?

Just recall the context China are operating from: Hong Kong was stolen from them at the height of the opium wars. There is no fairness in these geopolitical dealings.

Overall this sucks for HK… but it’s actually easy to understand all the parties involved actions/inaction… it’s just crap though. :(

Re: Hong Kong: Police Raid Tiananmen Square Museum

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Interesting to see the parallel crackdowns on the glorification of separatism in both USA and PRC this week, with the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue in the former Confederate capital, and now this.

One was a traitor trying to keep his slaves, the other was fighting for Rights in China.

While that is true that fails to mention IMO a key difference. The civil war is not censored in the US, Tienanmen square is.

Removing a statue is very different than shutting down all discussion around an event and locking up those that want to talk about it.

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I visited this museum in 2016. It was incredible to see this on Chinese soil. Hong Kong had a mere 20 years of being truly Hong Kong, free of the UK and generally free of China. Now it is just more China.

Communist China has only had a mere 100 years compared to it's 5000 year history.

This is a pretty interesting perspective to consider, too.

Re: Hong Kong: Police Raid Tiananmen Square Museum

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The Chinese Government is speeding up their efforts to swallow Hong Kong and Macau into the Mainland. Closing the media outlets, museums, websites that speak against them. And a few key people get abducted here and there to scare more people and force them to accept the Beijing Regime. But... The people from Hong Kong still demonstrates and tries to fight for their lost rights.

Very sad and parallels what seems to be happening in the US and other western democracies as well. There is a trend of certain dominant power in all of these countries that is quashing all opposing voices. I predict that some major global events are going to happen within the next few years.

EDIT: Case in point - the quashing of opposing voices occurs on this board on this very comment. You cannot even bring up this fact. Thank you for proving me right fellow HNer.

Re: Hong Kong: Police Raid Tiananmen Square Museum

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The Chinese Government is speeding up their efforts to swallow Hong Kong and Macau into the Mainland. Closing the media outlets, museums, websites that speak against them. And a few key people get abducted here and there to scare more people and force them to accept the Beijing Regime. But... The people from Hong Kong still demonstrates and tries to fight for their lost rights.

Really reminds me of the Taiwan election commercial that compares Taiwan and Hong Kong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcVIQMrc4A
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