Live data from Hacker News

Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

bankofengland.co.uk

1–10 of 121 posts

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#2
This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this?

Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore.

They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#3
post #2

This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this? Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore. They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

I don’t think the article is outdated: US, Europe, and Japan all still use fractional reserve banking to create money. The central bank controls the base money supply using tools like open market operations or quantitative easing, but the broad money supply is some multiple of the base money supply. That multiple is determined by what fraction of deposits is lent out by commercial banks in the banking system.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#4
Some of the content is in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvRAqR2pAgw

Money is created by both the central bank and retail banks.

When the Bank of England buys an asset, it pays in newly-created pounds. These pounds are an obligation of the central bank, i.e. a debt owed by the bank. So these pounds are 'central bank money'.

When a commercial or retail bank gives you a loan, you have two accounts at the bank that move in opposite directions:

- current account is credited by $X (bank owes you money)

- loan account is debited by $X (you owe the bank)

So the net effect is zero (the sum of all your balances with the bank is still the same as before the loan was made). But now there's more money in your current account, so there's more money available for you to spend. Money has been created.

Even though this new money isn't central bank money:

- it's denominated in the same units as central bank money (pounds)

- it's almost as safe from default (it's protected by a deposit guarantee scheme)

- you can use it to pay for things (bank transfers are widely accepted as a means of payment)

In practice, there are capital adequacy requirements that limit how much banks can lend. They are required to keep a buffer between assets and liabilities (equity capital). As the bank's balance sheet gets bigger, more equity capital is required.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#5
post #3
post #2

This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this? Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore. They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

I don’t think the article is outdated: US, Europe, and Japan all still use fractional reserve banking to create money. The central bank controls the base money supply using tools like open market operations or quantitative easing, but the broad money supply is some multiple of the base money supply. That multiple is determined by what fraction of deposits is lent out by commercial banks in the banking system.

The Fed actually completely eliminated the reserve requirement in March of last year (1). Unsurprisingly, this hasn't gotten a lot of attention from the corporate media.

1 - https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#6
post #2

This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this? Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore. They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

One implication of what the article is talking about, in fact, is that fractional reserve banking isn’t really a thing, and has only ever been an inaccurate model for how banks really work.

A large proportion of money in modern economies is generated (along with private debt) in the private banking system. It is true that central banks can also create money (and in fact can do it without creating debt, unlike private banks), and can use this money for quantitive easing, but it’s not an either or - both are happening.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#7
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think the article is outdated: US, Europe, and Japan all still use fractional reserve banking to create money. The central bank controls the base money supply using tools like open market operations or quantitative easing, but the broad money supply is some multiple of the base money supply. That multiple is determined by what fraction of deposits is lent out by commercial banks in the banking system.

The Fed actually completely eliminated the reserve requirement in March of last year (1). Unsurprisingly, this hasn't gotten a lot of attention from the corporate media. 1 - https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm

Lots of countries have no reserve requirement. It actually doesn’t change much, just the asset mix banks hold.

How much a bank can lend is basically entirely determined by the amount of paid-up capital, not reserves anyway. The maximum ratios are fairly strictly regulated (e.g. Basel rules).

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#8
post #2

This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this? Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore. They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

The article doesn't talk about fractional reserve. It talks about commercial banks creating money by extending loans. It also talks about QE as another way of creating money by the central bank, when commercials banks aren't creating enough money.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#9
post #3
post #2

This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this? Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore. They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

I don’t think the article is outdated: US, Europe, and Japan all still use fractional reserve banking to create money. The central bank controls the base money supply using tools like open market operations or quantitative easing, but the broad money supply is some multiple of the base money supply. That multiple is determined by what fraction of deposits is lent out by commercial banks in the banking system.

Fed's reserve requirement is currently zero percent. Multiple of zero is zero.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#10
post #3
post #2

This is outdated. Maybe Bank of England still operates like this? Major central banks like US Fed, European ECB or Bank of Japan don't generate money using fractional reserve banking anymore. They use open market operations or quantitative easing instead. In other words, they buy debt, like treasuries with money.

I don’t think the article is outdated: US, Europe, and Japan all still use fractional reserve banking to create money. The central bank controls the base money supply using tools like open market operations or quantitative easing, but the broad money supply is some multiple of the base money supply. That multiple is determined by what fraction of deposits is lent out by commercial banks in the banking system.

Banks don’t lend out deposits to they create money that is then eliminated when the debt is paid back.

To create money banks need a certain amount of capital this is governed by capital requirements most of which come from the capital invested into the bank through share purchases.

Many countries have no reserve requirements at all, BOE specifically doesn’t even issue them any longer.

Post reply on HN