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If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by yreg »

Applejinx wrote: post #102
Teknoman117 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. If society were to fall apart, the number in your bank account will matter very little, if it even exists anymore...

Indeed. Money is a bit of a lie in its own right. Me, I go for functionality. The catch there is, if I've acquired plenty of functionality for something I consider desirable but then I don't DO that thing, does it still exist?

Functionality typically decreases in value over time while money (in various forms) increase in value.

Properties are the exception, being both functional and an investment.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by Applejinx »

yreg wrote: post #261
Applejinx wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. Money is a bit of a lie in its own right. Me, I go for functionality. The catch there is, if I've acquired plenty of functionality for something I consider desirable but then I don't DO that thing, does it still exist?

Functionality typically decreases in value over time while money (in various forms) increase in value. Properties are the exception, being both functional and an investment.

Thing is, you can say that is the lie. That, over sufficient time, any form of money will collapse to worthlessness. Then it's just a question of when you bought in and when you cashed out. It's rather arbitrary. That it increases in value, is the lie. Nothing says it does… but repeating the lie.

It's a very popular lie.

Now tell me about how crypto is money :)

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by philosopher1234 »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #246
philosopher1234 wrote: post #189

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Thats sad. Americans need meaning beyond career.

How do you know they're an American?

I could be wrong, they could be from anywhere in the world, but it seems more likely that they’re American than European if their life is dedicated to work

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by effingwewt »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #259
effingwewt wrote: post #250

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just to reiterate here- I'd bet you most janitors could code if given the same classes. Or maybe they can't code maybe they'd be better as a manager or HR or PM, or fuck even CEO. I'm tired of this bullshit rhetoric that SEs are somehow smarter than everyone else. I know some absolutely fucktarded people working for some pretty big companies in some pretty big roles. One is a doctor I wouldn't trust with my cat. Your…

Nobody said anything about intelligence. The person you originally replied to said skills . Just because I could spend a year learning something if I so choose, doesn't mean that I currently have those skills. They're called low skill jobs, not low intelligence jobs.

His point was he has the skills. I made the point about bootcamps, skills are easily obtained. Implying the janitor could not gain the skills is insane. Thinking a SE could begin a janitorial job tomorrow and do it as well as the janitor is laughable. SE skills are just a bit harder to come by, they aren't special. If your skills can be learned in a 6 week course you are not an astrophysicist nor a brain surgeon.

SEs are paid well and so have an overinflated self-value. Again, now that this is crashing with WFH. We have code chop shops in India, yet we still try and pretend coding is some modern-day magic language.

ninja edit- hit reply b4 finished

2nd edit- reminded me of this [1] infamous That Mitchell and Webb Look sketch =)

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by AlwaysRock »

xyzzy21 wrote: post #199
kongin wrote: post #181

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You just pay a cook to do it for you. If you're making mid six figures it's ultimately much cheaper than a spouse.

Sadly true with modern family courts in divorce... that's why MGTOW exists and is radically growing.

MGTOW is not actually about men going their own way. The subreddit, pre banning, was primarily bitching about women.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by AlwaysRock »

xkqd wrote: post #45
AlwaysRock wrote: post #16

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Most people don't enjoy working 70 hours a week.

I think you’re saying it but… You mean working for your employer 70 hours a week, right? As for me, I make it a point to give my employers what they’re paying for, but nothing extra. I spend a lot of extra time each week performing “work” for myself. Whether it be home improvement or side projects.

Sure. If we want to expand the definition of work then I work every hour of the day. Some of that work is for my employer, some of that work is for my family, some of that work is for me.

Most people don't enjoy spending 70 hours a week working for their employer.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by Nbox9 »

imtringued wrote: post #76
Nbox9 wrote: post #67

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I read the comment to say that a hobby might make him “truly happy” but because of the uncertainty of the future he’s working hard and getting some level of satisfaction from that. He’s maximizing for security not for happiness.

When everyone is doing that you have a recession. http://www.pkarchive.org/theory/baby.html

I don’t understand the relevance of that link with your point, although I mostly agree with your point I’m hoping you can provide more information on how your evidence is relevant.

The link is mostly about what happens when there is too little currency. Someone deciding to work 40 hours a week instead of 70 would, if anything, reduce the amount of currency in circulation because more wealthy people tend to have larger savings and a person working 70 hours a week is probably making more money than if they were working 40.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #263
phendrenad2 wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know they're an American?

I could be wrong, they could be from anywhere in the world, but it seems more likely that they’re American than European if their life is dedicated to work

Isn't that circular logic though?

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by jimsimmons »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #62

There’s a high associated with intense work that you only get when around other people working hard. There’s a reason why the strongest bounds are formed under pressure. Pity that you can’t get that high and peace at the same time.

Isn't that "high" a flimsy thing though? It's like you're lowkey advocating for a trance like state. I'm not sure that's what I want to end up doing all my life -- be high with similar addicts.
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