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The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Electron apps are still desktop apps.

The web however did eat the desktop: everything other the browser and the text editor is now a web app.

I have literally 4 apps that I use on my machine: terminal and postman in addition to the above.

I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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... "And nobody noticed"???

Gsuite, office365, etc, offer this as a _feature_. People have noticed.

Even as far as election goes, tons of people complain about the higher ram usage, bloat, etc. Sure, non technical users may not know why, but technical users do, and almost everybody notices a difference in some form or another.

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Electron apps are still desktop apps. The web however did eat the desktop: everything other the browser and the text editor is now a web app. I have literally 4 apps that I use on my machine: terminal and postman in addition to the above. I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

>I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

Harder to track people and feed them ads.

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Electron apps are still desktop apps. The web however did eat the desktop: everything other the browser and the text editor is now a web app. I have literally 4 apps that I use on my machine: terminal and postman in addition to the above. I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

Two words: app stores.

While this is less of a concern for Google (the Android supports alternative app stores, and Google would love it if we all used Chrome), switching to mobile apps will deprive Apple of a significant source of revenue derived from the App Store. Thus, it is in Apple's best interest for developers to continue writing iPhone/iPad apps and Apple receiving a chunk for each sale than for developers to write Web apps and Apple not receiving a cut.

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Web still has by far the best developer experience + cross platform stability, not to mention the lowest barrier to entry. I would be really interested to see what happens with Tauri[1] as that looks like a more promising alternative to Electron.

I do want to see a return to native apps but there are no worthwhile incentives to do so outside of "our customers demanded a native app."

[1] https://tauri.studio/en/

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Electron apps are still desktop apps. The web however did eat the desktop: everything other the browser and the text editor is now a web app. I have literally 4 apps that I use on my machine: terminal and postman in addition to the above. I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

>I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

Apple has made it so that every browser on their mobile devices is basically really Safari under the hood. And they have purposefully crippled Safari to push developers to the lucrative app store. Nothing is going to change until this changes, either through consumer behavior or through legislation.

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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... "And nobody noticed"??? Gsuite, office365, etc, offer this as a _feature_. People have noticed. Even as far as election goes, tons of people complain about the higher ram usage, bloat, etc. Sure, non technical users may not know why, but technical users do, and almost everybody notices a difference in some form or another.

I’m not sure that is the point of the article. Gsuite and Office 365 run in the browser, so people know that those are web apps.

How many people would know that Slack and Spotify are basically just web apps too?

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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Electron apps are still desktop apps. The web however did eat the desktop: everything other the browser and the text editor is now a web app. I have literally 4 apps that I use on my machine: terminal and postman in addition to the above. I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps

>I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps Harder to track people and feed them ads.

No it isn't, even the govt apps in my country have ads in them. With firefox i can easily block them, for apps this becomes much harder, if dns blocking isn't sufficient.

Re: The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps Harder to track people and feed them ads.

No it isn't, even the govt apps in my country have ads in them. With firefox i can easily block them, for apps this becomes much harder, if dns blocking isn't sufficient.

Yep, that's exactly what I was saying!
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