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Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

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I would stop using HN if it turned into Reddit - from a comments perspective. I already see it happening on some threads so it's probably a matter of time.

It's turning into what Reddit was a few years ago. By the time it gets to where Reddit is now, Reddit will be even worse...

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#42

I've been reading HN daily for over a decade and what's been tempting me to quit lately is the realization of just how stagnant discussion is around here. Privacy dead-enders, soliloquies for the "dream of the open internet", Google cancelling projects, ad blocking, piracy, the "spirit of free speech"... i'm sick of it! It's a nasty combination of smug and boring. One of the things that I've come to appreciate about…

+1 and wayyy too many curmudgeons.

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#43

As soon as the whole front page is links to paywalled MSM sites, I already check the (source) before clicking. If I wanted to read the headlines and first paragraph of articles in the NYT I'd just sign up for their daily email digest.

I am surprised HN doesn't have an auto-link to archive.org and archive.is for all the link posts. I used it often to bypass the paywalled sites.

That's coming.

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#44

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Yeah, the downvote I got for this comment kind of proves my point. Which is why I rarely post or comment. This is not stopping me from using HN as such but there are plenty of posts I'd otherwise comment on. But what is the point if they just vanish? If the goal is to only be seeing the approved groupthink, what is the point? A possible solution is to force people to comment if they want to downvote. I think I'll res…

I think HN staff must be aware this is a point of contention in the community. It's brought up too regularly for them to not look into it? It's worth staying optimistic; this is overall a great place.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#45
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I disagree to an extent. There's a Facebook bot that reposts things from HN to FB and you can see the significant drop in quality. When people can't downvote, they yell at each other. There's a similar effect on HN main page where you can't downvote submissions, only flag. So disagreements with the submission float to the top of the comment list, whereas the people who agree give it a silent upvote. One of mine in th…

Yeah, the downvote I got for this comment kind of proves my point. Which is why I rarely post or comment. This is not stopping me from using HN as such but there are plenty of posts I'd otherwise comment on. But what is the point if they just vanish? If the goal is to only be seeing the approved groupthink, what is the point? A possible solution is to force people to comment if they want to downvote. I think I'll res…

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Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#46
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am surprised HN doesn't have an auto-link to archive.org and archive.is for all the link posts. I used it often to bypass the paywalled sites.

That's coming.

Working on new features?

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#48

The "downvote due to disagree" thing really annoys me. That and making the text become washed out. I hate it. Especially when I've seen excellent unpopular comments disappear because they were simply unpopular due to politics. Its anti-intellectual. I want to see unpopular comments because they often reveal something interesting. People should be downvoting because its not appropriate intellectually (adds nothing, eg…

I agree that the downvote option is problematic - it carries different meanings with subtle differences:

- A way to signal disagreement with a comment.

- A means to flag a comment as clearly misleading or incorrect.

- A way of signalling a 'low value' comment (obviously subjective).

- A way for the downvoter to simply express his or her displeasure at what has been posted regardless how reasonable the comment is. (This probably happens more often than people care to admit it. It's subtly different than just disagreement.)

One might argue all the above examples are types of 'disagreement'.

An idea: clicking downvote adds the following line to the end of a comment:

1 reader disagrees or 3 readers disagree

It doesn't capture the other examples, but maybe it will deter the other uses.

On the other hand, this might be a terrible idea. It's a difficult problem to solve!

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#49
post #47

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Working on new features?

Yes!

Pease consider a page listing beta features in progress and maybe even a form to sign up for beta testing. People seem to be under the impression (I used to be) that this forum is frozen in amber.

Devlogs would be nice too, since just about everyone interested in Arc development is already here, but that might be asking too much.

Re: Ask HN: What would it take for you to stop using Hacker News?

#50
Everything I like, and hate, about this place comes down to the community. Features don't mean much either way.

That said, I'd like to be able to change my username and be able to archive or delete my content at will. Even a pseudonymous identity and history on any platform can be a liability these days.

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