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If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by xyzzy21 »

bobthechef wrote: post #89
brtkdotse wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did he ever have time to be with his family?

Right. The family is your moral priority, not your career. But people are selfish. They will sacrifice their families for their careers when the two are in conflict. Divorces ensue, estranged children that are poorly adjusted. Actually, all this mostly started with the industrial revolution. Before then, work usually took place in and around the home for most people. Both men and women worked. But with the industrial…

Familiar with that book.

It's not so black-and-white, however.

First it's based on a much older book that is essentially talking about "master-slave/master-serf" luxury and leisure of elites - 100% bullshit elitism.

Second, the reality is that civilization can not operate without a fair if not majority of jobs being shit jobs. As long as they are well-paying enough and voluntary, there's nothing wrong with that. And that cost could be being away from your family. As long as family is being provided for, I see no problems with that.

And the main reason being that simply having parents being "present" does NOT assure happy or good childhoods to your children or good relations with your spouse. There are plenty of counter examples.

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Post by felistoria »

echelon wrote: post #185
mywittyname wrote: post #177

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Realistically though, 1.5MM brings in much more than $60k a year most of the time (an aggressive portfolio could return that much in a month, on occasion). So one could buy a place in a cool area with a cheap 30 year loan immediately before quitting. Live there for as long as you want, then sell it if you get the urge for a cheaper, less exciting lifestyle. Even if one overspends a little extra in those initial years…

> Realistically though, 1.5MM brings in much more than $60k a year most of the time. How are you employing it? [personal details removed]

You need to get in contact with a high net worth investment advisory. I use Fisher Investments.

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Post by iso1210 »

WJW wrote: post #188
asdff wrote: post #146

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RV is the perfect vehicle then for making your way to safety at the nearest operating military base.

Why would the military let some rando in a RV into their base?

Because Will Smith has a dead alien in the back

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Post by mahogany »

justwalt wrote: post #18
hintymad wrote: post #14

It's as if work is just toiling, but in reality it is not. Some people may just love meeting people and calling the shot. Some people may just love reading papers and tweaking and building systems. Some people may just love deriving equations and writing papers and giving talks. They call such activities work, but they enjoy doing them. What matters is not hours but choice: can one choose to use her time at her own w…

This is completely tangential to your point, but why did you choose to use “she” as the pronoun in your last sentence? I see this more and more frequently, and I assume it has something to do with being more inclusive (so as not to imply only a man could be the subject), but I don’t want to assume. Why not use “they” instead?

I doubt you would have noticed -- at least not enough to stop and make a comment -- if "he" was chosen instead. Why not throw in some extra flavor (and sure, inclusivity too) to your writing and make a woman the subject from time to time?

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Post by effingwewt »

clipradiowallet wrote: post #43
neals wrote: post #38

Because I know what it means to work a 40hour shitty job. And I mean shitty. As in fill paint cans and inhale paint fumes all week shitty. I mean crawl into a conveyor belt that's stuck, use a torch to heat it up and a sledgehammer to straighten it shitty. That I'm now able to what I do and earn what I earn, to me, is like a miracle and I enjoy every minute of it.

I empathize with your sentiment.. I checked out of IT-related work in my 20's, and the moment I checked back in was sitting on the floor of a production welding shop, impact drilling holes through plate steel. I had this moment of clarity when I realized that however "unhappy" IT made me, it wasn't nearly as miserable as the alternative I had stumbled into. Or as my dad put it: better to work with your head than your…

This all still skirts the main issue. Why does the janitor get paid so much less for a shitty job almost no one wants to do? Why do we have damn near minimum wage construction jobs? Many jobs are important, all should be paid accordingly. Failing that, shouldn't the most labor intensive jobs therefore pay the best? The incentives are so skewed in society now. And I say that as someone who has done all kinds of crazy jobs from cushy to hell.

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Post by jpindar »

FractalHQ wrote: post #138
JTbane wrote: post #129

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>going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes what's the plan when fuel shortages start happening and your RV can't be kept rolling?

I wonder what the EV RV industry is looking like..

The Ford F150 Lightning has a number of features made for pulling a trailer.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/#towing...

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Post by saulpw »

lentil_soup wrote: post #152
neals wrote: post #38

Because I know what it means to work a 40hour shitty job. And I mean shitty. As in fill paint cans and inhale paint fumes all week shitty. I mean crawl into a conveyor belt that's stuck, use a torch to heat it up and a sledgehammer to straighten it shitty. That I'm now able to what I do and earn what I earn, to me, is like a miracle and I enjoy every minute of it.

Ok, but it's also possible to have a non-shitty 40hour job

It's also possible to have a non-shitty tech job. So I hear anyway.

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

goldenchrome wrote: post #104
codingdave wrote: post #97

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> You come home, home cooked meal, wife happy to hang out go on a walk do whatever That also feels outdated. I don't know many people who are happy to sit at home, prepare meals for their absent spouse, and then smile and be happy to do whatever that spouse wants to do when they get home. That feels like an image from the 50s, not 2021.

Yeah my wife hates that she doesn't get to experience endless office politics and instead has to spend her time with our wonderful children and make meals for her loving husband who makes money for her.

If y'all are both happy about it, great. That set up is less common in the younger generations, especially those who were children when divorce rates were dominating headlines.

At least anecdotally most of the millennial couples with a traditional stay at home set up I know transitioned to that after their first kid without expecting to

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Post by ActorNightly »

JTbane wrote: post #129
ActorNightly wrote: post #121

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Thats looking it through the last generations lens where stability = a geographical location to live with a house on it. Ironically, as climate change effects become more and more prominent, going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes.

>going with a RV route is looking more like the best possible option for the future, cause you can just pick up and leave when bad weather comes what's the plan when fuel shortages start happening and your RV can't be kept rolling?

Then you basically are in the same situation functionally as having a house, no different from other people. Maybe even better considering that you spent less money.

But realistically, hybrid powertrains, or even simple multi-fuel generator charging will make this a non issue.

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

xyzzy21 wrote: post #199
kongin wrote: post #181

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You just pay a cook to do it for you. If you're making mid six figures it's ultimately much cheaper than a spouse.

Sadly true with modern family courts in divorce... that's why MGTOW exists and is radically growing.

Divorces per 1000 is at 2.7 in 2019, down from 4.0 in 2000.

Pretty sure that divorce rate isn't the reason why the misogynist community MGTOW exists.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/marriage-divorce.htm

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