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If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

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Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#11

This post incorrectly assumes that working is not fun and should be minimized. Maybe the work is the point.

The point of what? Life?

If it is the point for you, that's great, but it's certainly not the point for me. Don't incorrectly assume most people share your purpose or values.

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#12
Why do you suppose that people don't enjoy working 70 hours a week? My dad regularly worked 70 hour weeks - had multiple careers doctor/businessman/public figure. But he had a ton of help - manager, personal assistant, chauffeur. Everything on the home front was outsourced. He loved it. But he had a lot of control.

Most people, I observe who burn out, do because of other reasons - work politics, poor health and ultimately not feeling in control of their lives. Not everyone is built to work like that, but some are. And they can sustain it for long periods of time.

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#13

This post incorrectly assumes that working is not fun and should be minimized. Maybe the work is the point.

The point of what? Life? If it is the point for you, that's great, but it's certainly not the point for me. Don't incorrectly assume most people share your purpose or values.

It sounds like you're both saying the same thing "Don't incorrectly assume most people share your purpose or values". They never prescribed everyone must have these values rather they pointed out the article does not consider some may.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#14
It's as if work is just toiling, but in reality it is not. Some people may just love meeting people and calling the shot. Some people may just love reading papers and tweaking and building systems. Some people may just love deriving equations and writing papers and giving talks. They call such activities work, but they enjoy doing them.

What matters is not hours but choice: can one choose to use her time at her own will? If she can, then I don't see any issue at all.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#15
The headline itself is an example of a question that answers itself.

Another example would be "if you've saved up a lot of money, why don't you spend more?" Well because I saved it by not spending too much.

And in this case, "success" is working long hours, because of what these workers believe. Success is the appearance of working hard, and having put the effort in.

The article doesn't really address income/spending, though. Are they making excellent money because of working so hard? What do they do with it? If they spend most of it, they have to keep earning to sustain their lifestyle.

Of course, some people spend little, work hard, earn a lot, and perhaps never reach "enough", where they can work less, spend a bit more, and actually enjoy the fruit of their labor.

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#16

Why do you suppose that people don't enjoy working 70 hours a week? My dad regularly worked 70 hour weeks - had multiple careers doctor/businessman/public figure. But he had a ton of help - manager, personal assistant, chauffeur. Everything on the home front was outsourced. He loved it. But he had a lot of control. Most people, I observe who burn out, do because of other reasons - work politics, poor health and ultim…

Most people don't enjoy working 70 hours a week.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#17

The headline itself is an example of a question that answers itself. Another example would be "if you've saved up a lot of money, why don't you spend more?" Well because I saved it by not spending too much. And in this case, "success" is working long hours, because of what these workers believe. Success is the appearance of working hard, and having put the effort in. The article doesn't really address income/spending…

No, I don't think people work 70 hours because they're successful. I think they work 70 hours out of necessity and others think that makes them successful.

If I were successful then I definitely wouldn't be _working_. Yet here I am working many hours and others claim I am successful.

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#18

It's as if work is just toiling, but in reality it is not. Some people may just love meeting people and calling the shot. Some people may just love reading papers and tweaking and building systems. Some people may just love deriving equations and writing papers and giving talks. They call such activities work, but they enjoy doing them. What matters is not hours but choice: can one choose to use her time at her own w…

This is completely tangential to your point, but why did you choose to use “she” as the pronoun in your last sentence? I see this more and more frequently, and I assume it has something to do with being more inclusive (so as not to imply only a man could be the subject), but I don’t want to assume. Why not use “they” instead?

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#19

The headline itself is an example of a question that answers itself. Another example would be "if you've saved up a lot of money, why don't you spend more?" Well because I saved it by not spending too much. And in this case, "success" is working long hours, because of what these workers believe. Success is the appearance of working hard, and having put the effort in. The article doesn't really address income/spending…

No, I don't think people work 70 hours because they're successful. I think they work 70 hours out of necessity and others think that makes them successful. If I were successful then I definitely wouldn't be _working_. Yet here I am working many hours and others claim I am successful.

You're defining "successful" as not having to work.

They define it differently (just as "others" define your "working many hours" as successful.)

Re: If You’re So Successful, Why Are You Still Working 70 Hours a Week?

#20
Based on people I know, either (1) they enjoy it and don't have anything else they'd rather do. This is common among business owners. Or (2) they also spend a lot of money and no other job is going to pay them remotely close to what they need to earn to continue spending the way they do. This is more common in industries like law and finance.
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