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WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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so you can report a message thread to fb for abuse and then contractors check the messages to verify for said abuse. how is this news? it's the equivalent of taking a screenshot of a whatsapp thread and reporting that, doesn't affect e2e encrpytion in any way.

If someone other than sender or recipient can read messages -- it's not E2E.

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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I thought WhatsApp is end to end encrypted, no?! The article is written confusingly. It looked as if Facebook has private keys, and WhatsApp is not end to end encrypted. But considering this: >> Those contractors, which Facebook acknowledges, reportedly spend their days sifting through content that WhatsApp users and the service's own algorithms flag. Does Facebook use automated tools and perform “Client-side Scannin…

Same here. I think so too. It was validated by OpenWhisper systems.

I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic, but I sure hope that you are.

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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post #11
post #5

so you can report a message thread to fb for abuse and then contractors check the messages to verify for said abuse. how is this news? it's the equivalent of taking a screenshot of a whatsapp thread and reporting that, doesn't affect e2e encrpytion in any way.

If someone other than sender or recipient can read messages -- it's not E2E.

By your logic signal is not e2e because I can copy a message from a friend and post it here.

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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post #4
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I thought WhatsApp is end to end encrypted, no?! The article is written confusingly. It looked as if Facebook has private keys, and WhatsApp is not end to end encrypted. But considering this: >> Those contractors, which Facebook acknowledges, reportedly spend their days sifting through content that WhatsApp users and the service's own algorithms flag. Does Facebook use automated tools and perform “Client-side Scannin…

Same here. I think so too. It was validated by OpenWhisper systems.

Correct, it is e2e, the messages are delivered intact to the receiver.

It's just that the receivers are leaking.

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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What I find the most shocking about all this is that people believe Facebook when they said it was E2E. If you can't inspect for yourself the default assumption should be that they're lying. I even recall recommending Signal to friends -- nope. We use WhatsApp it's E2E so even safer than Signal or Telegram that are deceitful as you have to use secret chat to get E2E! All these FB messenger advocates seem to have the…

> We use WhatsApp it's E2E so even safer than Signal or Telegram that are deceitful as you have to use secret chat to get E2E!

Just a minor correction, Telegram is the one that is only E2E encrypted via their secret chat feature. Signal is E2E encrypted at all times, and open source.

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone other than sender or recipient can read messages -- it's not E2E.

By your logic signal is not e2e because I can copy a message from a friend and post it here.

e2e is only as secure as either of your e's

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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post #11
post #5

so you can report a message thread to fb for abuse and then contractors check the messages to verify for said abuse. how is this news? it's the equivalent of taking a screenshot of a whatsapp thread and reporting that, doesn't affect e2e encrpytion in any way.

If someone other than sender or recipient can read messages -- it's not E2E.

Technically the communication between both ends is encrypted. What each end does with the unencrypted content is out of the scope of E2E encryption.

Re: WhatsApp moderators can read your messages if someone you talk to reports them

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so you can report a message thread to fb for abuse and then contractors check the messages to verify for said abuse. how is this news? it's the equivalent of taking a screenshot of a whatsapp thread and reporting that, doesn't affect e2e encrpytion in any way.

But why are we desensitized to move on with life and letting a company lie about what their product offers? Isn’t there a law somewhere about fake claims? I’m sure it’s somewhere in the policies but if a bread company said they were gluten free and they weren’t, they would be in deep shit no?
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