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Re: Scalability

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Post by blasdel » Thu, Aug 04, 2011, 9:29 AM UTC

nnethercote wrote: post #155

tjoff wrote: post #150

Humm. My experience are completely opposite. In my experience firefox breaks down quite fast and chrome has always been many orders of magnitude better than any browser I've tested (firefox, (safari), opera, IE). I have about 500 tabs in chrome now, never been close to that with any other browser, granted the computer is barely usable now as chrome takes pretty much all resources so I'm working on closing some down :…

Firefox 7 and 8 (both in development) are much better behaved over long sessions. You should give one of them a try.

By how much? When I switched to Chrome, Firefox 3 would crash on me at least once every 6 hours of use (10+ times a week), and take 15+ minutes to reopen with ~150 tabs.

Chrome on the other hand has always handled 300+ tabs without blinking. Closing and restarting it with that load takes about 20s to be usable and a couple minutes for all the content to be loaded — basically limited only by my internet connection. It crashes about one every three months, ironically only when I tell it to quit.

Firefox would have to now be three orders of magnitude better in these respects in order to have caught up with Chrome.

P.S. Mozilla's messaging with "try version 7 or 8" is fucking abysmal. Seriously shut the fuck up about version numbers if you're going to increment them so often. Don't copy Chrome's development cycle without also copying their release structure: normal, dev, canary.

Re: Scalability

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Post by Tomis » Thu, Aug 04, 2011, 10:13 AM UTC

pushingbits wrote: post #80

narkee wrote: post #24

Anyone care to share how their usage patterns lead to having hundreds of tabs open at a single time? How is it even feasible to find a specific tab without doing a time consuming linear search? I rarely have more than 4-5 tabs open at a time, so I'm honestly curious.

Opera has tab stacks where you drop tabs on top of each other, which groups them together. Then you can collapse and expand the groups. I don't use it that much (mostly because there are no shortcuts and command line interface for adding to a stack or expand / collapse), but it is nice sometimes. I might do some research for a blog post, end up with 5 sites that I know I will need to consult when I write it, and just…

I usually place Opera's tab bar on the left and set it to wrap to multiple lines, so I have plenty of room to hoard an obscene amount of tabs. When the count gets too high I sometimes hide the tab bar altogether and ctrl+tab+click between the tabs. Works great.

Re: Scalability

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Post by chrislomax » Thu, Aug 04, 2011, 7:08 PM UTC

nnethercote wrote: post #156

chrislomax wrote: post #14

I recently switched from Firefox to Chrome after their appalling release of Firefox 4 & 5. 5 Is better than 4, but only slightly. In most cases, Chrome out performs Firefox now and it's a shame that I had to switch from Firefox. Although these are real world statistics you encountered, I still think that Firefox needs to buck their ideas up and start releasing more stable versions.

Yeah, FF4 had its problems. FF5 and FF6 fixed some of them, but I think you'll really like FF7. Try it out!

I'll give it a go thanks

I remember switching to Firefox nearly 7 years ago and swore I would never look back, that's why I am insulted at their latest efforts

Re: Scalability

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Post by Perceval » Fri, Aug 05, 2011, 3:19 PM UTC

doctoboggan wrote: post #158

Perceval wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have that Chrome extension and a similar one for Safari. I just dislike opening images inline or all loaded into one separate tab, because then it turns saving individual images into a mouse-driven task rather than a keyboard-driven task. As an aside: what do you use to browse Hacker News on your phone?

I just use safari, is there a better option?

There are some apps for browsing HN in the app store, but I haven't bought any of them to try. Right now I browse HN through http://ihackernews.com/ which is a nicer stylesheet for mobile browsing.

Re: Scalability

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Post by doctoboggan » Fri, Aug 05, 2011, 11:29 PM UTC

Perceval wrote: post #164

doctoboggan wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just use safari, is there a better option?

There are some apps for browsing HN in the app store, but I haven't bought any of them to try. Right now I browse HN through http://ihackernews.com/ which is a nicer stylesheet for mobile browsing.

Awesome, thanks. I was getting annoyed trying to click on the comment link on my phone.