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Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate

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Post by brezelgoring »

siquick wrote: post #37

I've lived in Australia for 10 years and really considering my familys future in this country. We are sleep-walking towards a very average future. An undiversified export economy, out of control house prices, a job-market primarily focused on two cities, a government intent on selling all public assets, very limited political interest in positive climate policies. The latter is simply addressed with "technology will…

So sad to hear that.

Hope it goes well for you wherever you choose to go, although I don't think there are many places left that aren't like that, at least not any places that have an acceptable standard of living. Something about a city having a future at all makes the real estate vortex come to life.

Know of a place? Tell me, dear reader, I'd love to hear it.

Re: Australia’s new mass surveillance mandate

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Post by refurb »

blitz_skull wrote: post #17

The problem here is a human one, not a governmental one. The government is just doing what humans tend to do: consolidate and protect power. The fact that this doesn’t serve anyone (other than their) interest is really just a side effect of the underlying cause. We should champion this issue and we should fight to keep this kind of thing from happening. But the deeper issue here is one of human nature. How do we buil…

Not sure why this is downvoted but it’s factually correct. Organizations consolidate power and try and hold onto it. You can even see it in a big corporation where groups will get territorial and actively try and sabotage other groups even though they work for the same company.

That’s why functional democracies are a patchwork of rules that try and prevent such consolidation.

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Post by vncecartersknee »

King-Aaron wrote: post #66
mdoms wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived in Australia for 5 years and my sense is that, as harsh as it sounds, Australia needs to go through an extreme hardship to wake up as a nation. Australia has lived true to its moniker as the Lucky Country - at least two full generations of Australians have never witnessed economic hardship or downturn of any kind. Natural disasters pass the nation by (other than wildfires). Even Covid looked like it was going…

This is exactly my feeling. Aussies are constantly whinging about extreme first-world problems and are completely apathetic (or willfully ignorant) of what real hardship is. As a result the general population is blindly letting the government erode our rights and are too pre-occupied with their own lives to actually realise what's happening.

"blindly letting the government erode our rights"

what else are we supposed to do? how do you stop the government from doing that?

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

wrycoder wrote: post #58
d_t_w wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's complex. When I first moved to Australia I rankled at compulsory voting as I believe that not participating is a valid political act. Countries without compulsory voting talk about the turnout as relative to previous years, and if it falls too far there will be questions about a mandate to govern. In Australia that can't happen as turnout is always high, this leads to very little opportunity to overhaul the mech…

If you are saying the Republican Party has spent decades trying to stop black people from voting, that is simply incorrect. It is what the other party’s propaganda would like you to believe. Same with voter suppression.

Southern conservative as Democrats or Republicans like Jesse Helms and Trent Lott were very much in favor of not letting African Americans vote. Who they caucused with later is unrelated.

But yes, to say it was Democrats or Republicans would be very technically inaccurate.

It isn’t a coincidence that the states that were practicing Jim Crow before are the same states trying to discourage voting today.

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Post by zomiaen »

nickysielicki wrote: post #79

These "data disruption warrants" are the most interesting to me: > Data disruption means adding, copying, deleting or altering data held in a computer. This can only be done in order to frustrate the commission of offences or determine relevance of data. To assist disruption, a warrant can also authorise other facilitative activities, such as entering specified premises, using electronic equipment to obtain access to…

They're a member of the FIVE EYEs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

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Post by gorwell »

mdoms wrote: post #57
siquick wrote: post #37

I've lived in Australia for 10 years and really considering my familys future in this country. We are sleep-walking towards a very average future. An undiversified export economy, out of control house prices, a job-market primarily focused on two cities, a government intent on selling all public assets, very limited political interest in positive climate policies. The latter is simply addressed with "technology will…

I lived in Australia for 5 years and my sense is that, as harsh as it sounds, Australia needs to go through an extreme hardship to wake up as a nation. Australia has lived true to its moniker as the Lucky Country - at least two full generations of Australians have never witnessed economic hardship or downturn of any kind. Natural disasters pass the nation by (other than wildfires). Even Covid looked like it was going…

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

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Post by perl4ever »

mdoms wrote: post #57
siquick wrote: post #37

I've lived in Australia for 10 years and really considering my familys future in this country. We are sleep-walking towards a very average future. An undiversified export economy, out of control house prices, a job-market primarily focused on two cities, a government intent on selling all public assets, very limited political interest in positive climate policies. The latter is simply addressed with "technology will…

I lived in Australia for 5 years and my sense is that, as harsh as it sounds, Australia needs to go through an extreme hardship to wake up as a nation. Australia has lived true to its moniker as the Lucky Country - at least two full generations of Australians have never witnessed economic hardship or downturn of any kind. Natural disasters pass the nation by (other than wildfires). Even Covid looked like it was going…

I wonder how much Australia is influenced by people who loathe the US and move from it to Australia because it's far away and yet Anglophone and "western".

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Post by kingkawn »

gorwell wrote: post #86
mdoms wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived in Australia for 5 years and my sense is that, as harsh as it sounds, Australia needs to go through an extreme hardship to wake up as a nation. Australia has lived true to its moniker as the Lucky Country - at least two full generations of Australians have never witnessed economic hardship or downturn of any kind. Natural disasters pass the nation by (other than wildfires). Even Covid looked like it was going…

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

It ain't all men out there
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