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Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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Not saying one shouldn't check in to make sure its a healthy habit but things you may want to consider before judging the habit is: 1) Cost: $120 of cannabis every month is cheaper than a therapist and more effective than 1 session 2) Some issues are perspective: where your perspective needs to be changed and it's making your life worse but not a DSM-5 diagnosis leaving a majority of therapists/psychologists without…

Financials aside (which I agree are a factor), this is a very short-sighted view. Therapy is not about finding a diagnosis, it is about finding perspective. Sure, for insurance billing purposes you need to be diagnosed but I'd bet most people seeking therapy are just given GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and it plays very little baring in how your therapy is executed. If what you seek is a healthier emotional and…

> GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and it plays very little baring in how your therapy is executed.

No there's set work books that many therapist agree on, but I'm talking about situations where your GAD is now at a state that isn't obstructive in your day-to-day life. You're doing the work still yet still feel less than or unhappy. There isn't more diagnoses for just feeling unfulfilled in life, depression is too harsh a term for it since your functional(which is core to most diagnosis is how much it changes your day to day). So that's when it comes to the therapists 'talk therapy' skill and how much time and money you have to throw at it

>this is a very short-sighted view. Therapy is not about finding a diagnosis, it is about finding perspective.

Yes, however, finding the therapist that can do that for you is exponentially harder. Since they have to understand you and your situation, and that comes with time and their personal insight on it. So at that point you have to then find someone that has faced similar issues or has specialized in helping people through them. If you're a minority, finding that insight is even more costly, so you have to choose talk therapy with someone that doesn't get it but is trying or pay the premium for the person that does.

For instance, I'm trans passing as a woman that's public about being trans. It's just inherently stressful navigating business environments, since I can get a mix of sexism and/or vailed transphobia. There isn't some magical answer my therapist has for me other than mediation and working through accepting myself and the situation. That involves re-diving into the stressful situation mentally to accept it, which is just more work and stress.

Examples: - Knowing that people are speaking down to me irl, more so than when I was an unqualified student. - Having people completely change their responses/personality around me when they find out I'm trans - Intense Anxiety not about day-to-day activities/interactions anymore but dealing with any authority figures in cases like crossing the border means TSA shouldn't but could force me to strip naked to prove I'm male

Therapy isn't going to help me de-stress from these, it would give me work to make those less stressful later by working through why it stresses me. For which I've been given the tools already to do so

> There are other ways to gain the "release valve" that don't involve smoking weed.

Yea, I know I'm not smoking right now, and I'm doing the others already do a 45m - 1 hour work out daily, 30 minutes mediation, I work while I eat and get 7-8 hours of sleep work 10-12 hours. It is still the most effective way to relax in 20 minutes for me, and I'm probably going back to it as a way to end my day in another month once I'm done the 3-month test abstaining from it. What else can I do in maybe the hour or two I have left in the day that is clinically shown to reduce stress...

> substituting cannabis for therapy is self-sabotage

It's not substitution it's in conjunction when I can afford it, otherwise I do the homework that I got from therapy. Which like I mentioned before is more work and stress, which isn't relaxing at all. Weed helps me keep up with the work and not let it add to work stress too, I have been noticing I'm falling behind on my homework in that sense.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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Did you switch to vaping concentrates or dry herb? I recently switched to a dry herb vape because concentrates were concerning me for other reasons.

Just dried herb/flower. Yeah, concentrates would be hard for me to trust, too.

Just quit dude. (dang doesn't want you to see this)

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I had my MI at age 43. Other than _smoking_ weed (via a bong) daily I was in good shape with regular exercise, etc. (5+ miles hiking in hills every day with my dog, at the bare minimum). After 3 stents I became much more conscientious about all my intakes and activities. I reduced my weed consumption, but began to notice that I would get angina pain about 20 minutes after smoking. Not after hiking or biking, or any p…

I just bought a nice new bong but I think I need to swap to vape. What vape did you try? I owned a volcano but found the bag to be cumbersome for semi-regular use.

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post #105

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Sounds like Tesla fanatics and the phantom ICE manufacturers they think are out to get them.

Pretty sure different companies competing in similar sectors aren't above stoking FUD about their competitors, no matter who they are or what industry they are in.

I heard Tesla fans speculate that coverage of Tesla's cars failing is driven by a secret cabal of short sellers and car manufacturers that are conspiring with the media, which apparently is also out to get Tesla.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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Everyone likes to say that but as a cannabis user for 20+ years, most cannabis does raise HR when it "hits." It also can cause anxiety. Those two things combined can make HR even higher through a feedback loop. But it's disingenuous to think it doesn't raise HR in higher doses - that it's just an anxiety issue. Indica or sativa, they both cause a HR increase during intake. In my experience, it can taper off and one s…

>They have anxiety about their heart rate and possibly dying, and their friend OP keeps insisting that they just need to "calm down and be cool" because this is "all in your head." That's what ignorant friends are for :-) 999 times of a thousand (likely much more) this is the correct response. As you acknowledged there's a feedback loop and external reasons to justify it are likely to increase your HR even further. G…

There's really nothing wrong with going to the hospital to get checked up if you've taken something that might be killing you. 150 is pretty high for a body that isn't exercising. If I had insurance and my HR was that high from a substance, and wasn't falling, I'd be on my way to the hospital if the diazepam I keep on hand didn't help. Your risk assessment is different. Trying to give stats on something neither of us can reliably give, is very silly.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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More than 1% are fat slobs. So is it really surprising? The obesity prevalence was 40.0% among adults aged 20 to 39 years, 44.8% among adults aged 40 to 59 years, and 42.8% among adults aged 60 and older. (2021) https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

I'm not sure the effect of obesity is that massive. Look at the curves in Fig 2 here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6503652/bin/VHR... From the text of that paper it looks like being obese ~doubles your risk at a given age, and it looks like age is the highest risk. It looks like the cumulative risk of being obese AND 80 puts your risk at about ~12% for having a heart attack. Hard to tell from that grap…

I would gander it is because the underlying reason is cardiovascular damage, not fat. But the two have a strong correlation. Even the tests for stenosis of arteries aren't very reliable or exact.

If we had good stats for vascular obstruction and looked at that instead, it'd probably be even more depressing than the obesity stats, knowing the diet most people eat..

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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It’s strange that all of the comments are looking for ways to dismiss this result (and this seems to happen generally with negative cannabis findings online). Is it not entirely possible a drug and method of consumption which stresses the cardiovascular system increases odds of an adverse cardiovascular event?

People like cannabis. Naturally they minimize any suggestion that it's not all good. I do the same with Lisp, smoked meats, and predestination. I see no mystery here.

All European preserved meats are categorically terrible for you. It doesn’t matter where the nitrates come from — celery or otherwise. We’re talking a 20% jump in cardiovascular issues so it’s not marginal.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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post #71

I had my MI at age 43. Other than _smoking_ weed (via a bong) daily I was in good shape with regular exercise, etc. (5+ miles hiking in hills every day with my dog, at the bare minimum). After 3 stents I became much more conscientious about all my intakes and activities. I reduced my weed consumption, but began to notice that I would get angina pain about 20 minutes after smoking. Not after hiking or biking, or any p…

I just bought a nice new bong but I think I need to swap to vape. What vape did you try? I owned a volcano but found the bag to be cumbersome for semi-regular use.

Pretty much anything from Arizer or Storz & Bickel are good bets. Dynavap is a great option if you're willing to deal with butane torches.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

#149
post #71

I had my MI at age 43. Other than _smoking_ weed (via a bong) daily I was in good shape with regular exercise, etc. (5+ miles hiking in hills every day with my dog, at the bare minimum). After 3 stents I became much more conscientious about all my intakes and activities. I reduced my weed consumption, but began to notice that I would get angina pain about 20 minutes after smoking. Not after hiking or biking, or any p…

I just bought a nice new bong but I think I need to swap to vape. What vape did you try? I owned a volcano but found the bag to be cumbersome for semi-regular use.

Adding to the the sibling comment, the “MIGHTY” is a portable dry herb vape by Storz & Bickel (they also make the Volcano) and is generally considered one of the best portable dry herb vapes on the market. The primary downside is that it’s still a bit large for a portable device.

I wanted something a bit smaller and less pricey to start with, and went with the “Fury Edge” by Healthy Rips. I’m a happy customer.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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Now that organically grown, super high quality marijuana gummies and candies are legally available in many places, why do people still smoke vs. eat it? It seems so much safer and the precise dose predictable.

Not to derail what you've said, you can get capsules that have a very precise dosage. Here is an example:

https://herb.co/products/capsules/aurora-indica-liquid-gels/

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