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Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by jrwoodruff »

whiddershins wrote: post #53
kdmccormick wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain why minimum wage laws aren't overreach but this is?

I’ve come 180 on minimum wage. How can anyone come between me and another adult trying to exchange services and money like this? It’s kind of insane if you think about it through that lens.

It seems insane to you because you have a very valuable skill and the means to easily shop around. It's less insane when the job market is restricted to a single employer in an area, employees lack the means to relocate, or really anytime there's a massive power imbalance between employer and employee. See the company store on wikipedia.

Minimum wage basically states "A human's time is worth at least this"

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by tootie »

abatilo wrote: post #48

Oh, neat. Hi everyone. I made this website a few months ago. If there are questions or suggestions, happy to answer them. The website was covered in the wallstreet journal and a few other places: https://www.wsj.com/articles/many-companies-want-remote-work... Definitely overkill for the website itself but I also built it as a learning opportunity so it's a react frontend with Tailwindcss, Golang + gRPC gateway, hoste…

It's funny that idk if you're trying to shame these companies or the government of Colorado because either would make sense depending on your POV.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #21
bri3d wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think many of these companies are simply too lazy to have their compliance department review listings, and have chosen to pull them instead. Which still reflects just as negatively on them, but isn't quite the same. This law is absolutely a great step forward, but I've seen plenty of roles listing pay ranges like "Minimum - $30,200/annual Maximum - $289,200/annual," so I struggle to believe that the actual informat…

The max is helpful too as I keep running into companies that want to pay 60K or 70K.

I had a recruiter e-mail me once to pitch a 6-month PHP programming contract that expected a Master's degree and 5 years experience that was only going to pay $15/hr.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

smoldesu wrote: post #67
whiddershins wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve come 180 on minimum wage. How can anyone come between me and another adult trying to exchange services and money like this? It’s kind of insane if you think about it through that lens.

It doesn't. If you wanna pay your neighbor's kid $15 for 3 hours of lawn mowing, you still can. Unmediated transactions of a certain scale don't require any government oversight, it's only when you start breaking out taxable income that it become a problem.

> If you wanna pay your neighbor's kid $15 for 3 hours of lawn mowing, you still can

That's illegal just unlikely to be enforced.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by unethical_ban »

abatilo wrote: post #48

Oh, neat. Hi everyone. I made this website a few months ago. If there are questions or suggestions, happy to answer them. The website was covered in the wallstreet journal and a few other places: https://www.wsj.com/articles/many-companies-want-remote-work... Definitely overkill for the website itself but I also built it as a learning opportunity so it's a react frontend with Tailwindcss, Golang + gRPC gateway, hoste…

Rackspace is doing it, and this tool isn't detecting it.

https://jobs.lever.co/rackspace/d18e6926-5c2d-49fc-8553-ba61...

>Position is available for remote work in the following states unless otherwise specified. Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

Hawaii is excluded as well. I wonder if it for legal or timezone/travel/covid reasons.

edit - looks like they have a fair amount of openings, and all the remote ones have CO excluded.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by hackingforfun »

newbie789 wrote: post #61

This is a great list of companies that I will avoid applying for. I don’t live in Colorado, but there’s something kind of I don’t know, petulant? Childish? Willfully insulting? to the phrase “ Remote work location is flexible if approved by the Company, except that position can not be performed remotely from Colorado.” I think what really sticks in my craw about that statement is that it’s a bold-faced lie. If a comp…

Regarding remote jobs and geography, there are also nexus laws to consider. Companies are sometimes only set up to have employees in certain states. The larger the company, the more states they will have nexus in. If a company hasn't already set up nexus in a state, and if it's for just one employee, they might not want to set up nexus there, for tax reasons.

I was told this when I was considering moving to another state (in the US), and asked my employer. I was told no based on that they did not have nexus in that state, and it would be a hassle for them to do so. What I learned from that is that remote doesn't necessarily mean work / live anywhere, even if moving within the same country.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by wyager »

MattGaiser wrote: post #28
lotsofpulp wrote: post #12

Businesses are not truly desperate for labor until they start publicly advertising minimum pay rates and quality of life at work. A few restaurants around me have started listing their starting pay, plus sign on bonuses, so they are finally feeling the heat.

I have always wondered whether I was in the minority in caring a lot about these, as companies tend to talk about the "challenges" and "mission", and while I enjoy those, I also chose this field in part because I want a comfortable life. I enjoy CS, don't get me wrong, but I also enjoy history.

I think working for an employer because you identify with their “mission” is deeply unhealthy for both individual employees and for society at large. In almost all cases, employment should be a purely financial transaction, and if you’re looking for something “deeper” you should probably work for yourself or start a new company.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by jonny_eh »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #12

Businesses are not truly desperate for labor until they start publicly advertising minimum pay rates and quality of life at work. A few restaurants around me have started listing their starting pay, plus sign on bonuses, so they are finally feeling the heat.

> A few restaurants around me have started listing their starting pay, plus sign on bonuses

I've noticed that at local fast food places here in the SF Bay Area for a few years.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by [deleted] »

whiddershins wrote: post #53
kdmccormick wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain why minimum wage laws aren't overreach but this is?

I’ve come 180 on minimum wage. How can anyone come between me and another adult trying to exchange services and money like this? It’s kind of insane if you think about it through that lens.

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Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by lotsofpulp »

shrimpx wrote: post #77
silexia wrote: post #32

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What would be even better is making all tax records public. Then everyone knows what everyone else makes. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

And wealthy people who prefer to not show it would become targets.

Are wealthy people who do show it frequently "targets"? I am not aware of rich people in the US being at risk from criminals.
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