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Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#61
This is a great list of companies that I will avoid applying for. I don’t live in Colorado, but there’s something kind of I don’t know, petulant? Childish? Willfully insulting? to the phrase “ Remote work location is flexible if approved by the Company, except that position can not be performed remotely from Colorado.”

I think what really sticks in my craw about that statement is that it’s a bold-faced lie. If a company were to say “we are unwilling to share how much we’re willing to pay because we’d prefer to underpay every person possible “ I’d respect it more than “this remote job is impossible to perform because of, uhhhh, geography”

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#62
One of the top results, Accenture, seems to have evolved to provide a very wide range for Colorado instead:

"As required by the Colorado Equal Pay Transparency Act, Accenture provides a reasonable range of minimum compensation for roles that may be hired in Colorado. Actual compensation is influenced by a wide array of factors including but not limited to skill set, level of experience, and specific office location. For the state of Colorado only, the range of starting pay for this role is $62,100 - $122,799 and information on benefits offered is here."

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#63

I’d love to see a law that goes a step further and also mandates that everyone’s salary be public knowledge to everyone else within the same company. If this generates resentment, it means the company is poorly managed. The company would therefore either be compelled to fix their pay discrepancies (thereby allaying the resentment) or risk losing resentful employees to other companies. It would also be great if this c…

Even if you didn't give specific dollar per person. I agree. There should be known ranges for a position and years of service as minimum

Similar to military if you know someone's pay and years. You know their minimum. But they might get additional amount for other reasons.

I think a good starting place is say position x pays between 35k and 40k for 1 to 5 years in position.

Its removes a little burden on jealously of knowing exact amounts. And the range must be small enough to be reasonable. It can't just be between 30k and 300k. Or as GP said. Give a +- from median.

I know its be easier for some to say they make higher end of their range or above max than it is to share specific dollar amount.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#65
From the signed law:

"(2) AN EMPLOYER SHALL DISCLOSE IN EACH POSTING FOR EACH JOB OPENING THE HOURLY OR SALARY COMPENSATION, OR A RANGE OF THE HOURLY OR SALARY COMPENSATION, AND A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF ALL OF THE BENEFITS AND OTHER COMPENSATION TO BE OFFERED TO THE HIRED APPLICANT. "

Nowhere in the document do they define the term "range".

If an employer wants to discriminate, couldn't they just give a wide range?

https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/2019a_085_signe...

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#66
post #48

Oh, neat. Hi everyone. I made this website a few months ago. If there are questions or suggestions, happy to answer them. The website was covered in the wallstreet journal and a few other places: https://www.wsj.com/articles/many-companies-want-remote-work... Definitely overkill for the website itself but I also built it as a learning opportunity so it's a react frontend with Tailwindcss, Golang + gRPC gateway, hoste…

Neat idea and great execution!

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain why minimum wage laws aren't overreach but this is?

I’ve come 180 on minimum wage. How can anyone come between me and another adult trying to exchange services and money like this? It’s kind of insane if you think about it through that lens.

It doesn't.

If you wanna pay your neighbor's kid $15 for 3 hours of lawn mowing, you still can. Unmediated transactions of a certain scale don't require any government oversight, it's only when you start breaking out taxable income that it become a problem.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#68

One of the top results, Accenture, seems to have evolved to provide a very wide range for Colorado instead: "As required by the Colorado Equal Pay Transparency Act, Accenture provides a reasonable range of minimum compensation for roles that may be hired in Colorado. Actual compensation is influenced by a wide array of factors including but not limited to skill set, level of experience, and specific office location.…

Given that the signed law does not define the term "range", I imagine every company could get around this by giving a range $1-1M

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#69

The Colorado law to me strikes me as a pretty huge government overreach. I fully believe in minimum wage laws, and that feels like an appropriate regulation to me, but this just feels like it's almost attacking these companies, interfering with their hiring processes, and I fully see why companies would rather not bother hiring in what boils down to 1 mid-sized metro area than deal with the consequences.

Anything that brings clarity with no cost is not an overreach. I don't even apply for companies that do not list salaries. Why would I waste days of time going through an interview process only to be offered burger flipper wages? The only companies complaining about this are shady scum who are embarrassed by their salary offers.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

#70
post #55

Context: Colorado’s Equal Pay Act requires jobs ads to list a salary range [1], which companies generally don't want to do. Excluding CO residents is one way companies are avoiding the law. [1] https://www.colorado.edu/hr/colorados-equal-pay-equal-work-a...

I think you mean avoid breaking the law. IANAL, but that ad without "no Colorado" might break the law.
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