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Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I'm not a doctor, so please note that this is a genuine question, and not a rhetorical speculation: That said, smoking has always made my heart race. I'd be curious to know if this is common for people, and if it is common, then whether or not this could be a contributing factor.

>edit, sorry, that should have said "I'm not a doctor."

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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A history of MI was more frequent among recent cannabis users (n = 61 of 4610, 1.3%) relative to nonusers (n = 240 of 28 563 [0.8%], adjusted odds ratio [OR] 2.07, 95% CI 1.12–3.82). One point three percent. Someone tell Willy Nelson before its too late.

Well it’s a +63% relative increase. Not so tiny.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I'm not a doctor, so please note that this is a genuine question, and not a rhetorical speculation: That said, smoking has always made my heart race. I'd be curious to know if this is common for people, and if it is common, then whether or not this could be a contributing factor. >edit, sorry, that should have said "I'm not a doctor."

It can lead to anxiety and panic attacks due to the high levels of THC relative to the past.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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People who make poor health decisions also have poor diet and exercise habits. Shocking and has never been proven before.

That is not what the study showed. They controlled for health and exercise.

In fact, the study they cited which also showed an increase in stroke risk actually showed cannabis users exercised more.

[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?author=T+Parekh&au...

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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It’s strange that all of the comments are looking for ways to dismiss this result (and this seems to happen generally with negative cannabis findings online). Is it not entirely possible a drug and method of consumption which stresses the cardiovascular system increases odds of an adverse cardiovascular event?

I think that many of the commenters are pointing out that this study is poorly done in some key areas, which make any kind of conclusions based on it of little value.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I'll gladly take this risk considering cannabis preserves my sanity and keeps me away from the trough of sorrow.

Sounds like therapy would be very useful then. If you’re having to self-medicate to maintain sanity, the substances are only a crutch. Speaking from personal experience.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I'm not a doctor, so please note that this is a genuine question, and not a rhetorical speculation: That said, smoking has always made my heart race. I'd be curious to know if this is common for people, and if it is common, then whether or not this could be a contributing factor. >edit, sorry, that should have said "I'm not a doctor."

My heart has never raced when smoking, but 2 other people in my family have never liked it because it always made their hearts race.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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This strikes me as a bit weak, and an answer looking for a question. > the current evidence is limited to case–control studies that are prone to bias and studies relying solely on administrative data.9–14 It is also limited in its definition of exposure, as these studies assess patients with heavy cannabis use (cannabis abuse or cannabis use disorder).9–14 Very few studies have assessed the prevalence of recent canna…

There is no control because there was no experiment. There is no independent variable that was controlled. This is epidemiology, not a trial. At best it can show a link, not causation.

There was an independent variable that was controlled as stated in the abstract and I pointed out already: they selected for people that had "abusive" relationships with cannabis according to whatever standard they chose.

They firmly state the presence of a link between heart attacks and cannabis consumption without outlining whether the selected group had any other existing health or genetic issues.

Maybe the data didn't contain that information—in which case the data sounds useless for this kind of study.

How can you draw a link (read: connection) when there is no causal proof? You can draw a correlation and state that further investigation is needed to draw a link, but they state there is a link.

That's why I'm calling it weak.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I'll gladly take this risk considering cannabis preserves my sanity and keeps me away from the trough of sorrow.

Sounds like therapy would be very useful then. If you’re having to self-medicate to maintain sanity, the substances are only a crutch. Speaking from personal experience.

Sweeping generalizations based on personal experience aren't much better than sweeping generalizations that aren't based on personal experience.

Re: Cannabis use and myocardial infarction in young adults: a cross-sectional study

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I'm not a doctor, so please note that this is a genuine question, and not a rhetorical speculation: That said, smoking has always made my heart race. I'd be curious to know if this is common for people, and if it is common, then whether or not this could be a contributing factor. >edit, sorry, that should have said "I'm not a doctor."

THC is a vasodilator (it makes your blood vessels relax and become larger) which is thought to cause reflex tachycardia which means your heart has to beat faster in order to keep blood circulating because the "pipes" (blood vessels) have suddenly become larger. The vasodilation is also the cause of bloodshot eyes.

There is also something to said for the anxiety which high THC cannabis can cause, as well as a sort of circular anxiety due to the fast heart rate (my heart is beating fast due to reflex tachycardia, which makes me anxious and worried, which makes my heart beat even faster, etc.).

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