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El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traditionally, when people in the US want to reduce remittances, they just campaign to expel the immigrants making the remittances.

That will just lead to a debt crisis down the road.

> will just lead to a debt crisis down the road

Reduced El Salvadorian immigration will lead to a debt crisis?

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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> To warm up a skeptical public, Bukele has promised every citizen $30 in bitcoin if they sign up for a government digital wallet. Ahead of the launch, El Salvador bought 400 bitcoins, Bukele said, helping drive the currency price above $52,000 for the first time since May.

> In the early hours of Tuesday the wallet had not appeared on Apple Inc., Google and Huawei’s app download platforms, however, prompting a series of tweets from Bukele, including one with a red-faced “angry” emoticon.

The involvement of a government-issued wallet gives this story an even stranger dimension. First, it's not clear how the government will identify those eligible to receive the $30 bitcoin deposit. Second, why would the government be involved at all in developing a wallet? There are plenty to choose from now, so what features exactly were missing in those? Finally, what government in its right mind would hitch its fortunes to the vagaries of a walled-garden App Store based in the US, a country clearly hostile to the Salvadoran experiment?

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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Why go with Bitcoin specifically? Why not use the Celo blockchain or Algorand instead and create their own stable coins on there? Both these networks are proof of work, transactions are very fast and cheap as well. Bitcoin is slow to validate transactions, is environmentally costly, and its value fluctuate, so I'm not sure what they were thinking. I wonder what the 30$ they receive from the gov is worth today after t…

Lazer eyes

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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Found this interesting deck[1] on El Salvador's digital climate while looking for smart phone adoption statistics. It would appear that there are more than enough smart devices to allow for such a transition successfully. Already on Twitter we're seeing crypto-punks there using Bitcoin to pay for their McDonalds, paying something like 0.000002 Bitcoin. I can't help but wonder what the outcome +1 year / + 5 years will…

what an awful waste of energy. Each bitcoin transaction uses the energy equivalent the entire lifespan of a tree. Effectively, each bitcoin transaction is cutting down of tree... in this case, for a hamburger

They are using lightning wallets. So no on chain settling. No (extra) trees were harmed for hamburgers (though obviously opening and closing of channels and initial mining it self is energy intensive).

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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> To warm up a skeptical public, Bukele has promised every citizen $30 in bitcoin if they sign up for a government digital wallet. Ahead of the launch, El Salvador bought 400 bitcoins, Bukele said, helping drive the currency price above $52,000 for the first time since May. > In the early hours of Tuesday the wallet had not appeared on Apple Inc., Google and Huawei’s app download platforms, however, prompting a serie…

I’d be skeptical about using a government wallet as well, though it could potentially make initial disbursements easier.

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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Why go with Bitcoin specifically? Why not use the Celo blockchain or Algorand instead and create their own stable coins on there? Both these networks are proof of work, transactions are very fast and cheap as well. Bitcoin is slow to validate transactions, is environmentally costly, and its value fluctuate, so I'm not sure what they were thinking. I wonder what the 30$ they receive from the gov is worth today after t…

Because bitcoin is by far the most scalable decentralized censorship resistant cryptocurrency. That isn’t a popular opinion here but it’s true. Improvements to the protocol are slow and often boring. The kind of thing that countries want in a cryptocurrency.

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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How are they getting around the very long wait times and large fees for transaction confirmations? I'm guessing the "government digital wallet" is just an account on a government service that changes values in a (centralized) database while holding a bunch of btc under the hood? Or maybe there are private bank options that do the same?

Re: El Salvador adopts Bitcoin as official currency, first country to do so

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Why go with Bitcoin specifically? Why not use the Celo blockchain or Algorand instead and create their own stable coins on there? Both these networks are proof of work, transactions are very fast and cheap as well. Bitcoin is slow to validate transactions, is environmentally costly, and its value fluctuate, so I'm not sure what they were thinking. I wonder what the 30$ they receive from the gov is worth today after t…

Algorand is not proof of work. Its a variation of PoS with very interesting use of VRF functions.
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