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Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by iotku »

fragileone wrote: post #43
drcongo wrote: post #29

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What is Odysee? I'm intrigued because at first glance it seems to be better than YouTube in almost every way possible. Page loads are quick, if you turn off AutoPlay it actually stays off, the controls are actually usable on an iPad etc.

It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant to censorship and thus is where many people are moving their channels to.

It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restrictions on things such as pornography.

By the standards of "alternative" video sites there's a pretty diverse set of content including mirrors from some well known YouTube creators (KhanAcademy, EEVBlog, GreatScott, Veritasium, HarwareUnboxed, Not Just Bikes, EposVox) who don't produce heavily political content (whereas many other alt tech video sites are just 99% political content going a single direction)

Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by slightwinder »

vorpalhex wrote: post #154
slightwinder wrote: post #140

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To be fair, the bans usually were about china fabricating the virus on purpose and releasing it with intention, accompanied by racism against Asians. This is pretty different from the accidental leak of a research-object, which is now the accepted theory.

The media did themselves and the public a disservice by gluing the two theories together and blending them. Several friends - college educated, intelligent professionals - were confused enough to approach and ask me about the lab leak/release theories. The intentional lab release theory is the stuff of nonsense conspiracy theories. The accidental leak theory has always had some support but is now more widely accepted…

It wasn't really the media doing that. It was more a combination between nut heads, meme heads with their umbrella-connection and the first panic. The media just amplified it and rode the wave, as usual. And after the message was out, it was hard to turn it around. And I guess the platforms were just unable to distinguish between them, as also had more interest to wait till the nutty wave died down.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by dan1234 »

phkahler wrote: post #54
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #17

The Linux Experiment is probably my favourite linux-focussed YouTube channel. Nick has been doing absolutely fantastic work and his channel being permanently deleted would be an absolute travesty and a clear mistake. He is producing high quality, thoughtful, inoffensive content. Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP, along with an apology and explanation from Google. Also, if you don't know the chan…

>> you can still watch them on Odysee Never heard of them, but that page looks great! Bookmarked.

It's the video/consumer frontend to LBRY, a decentralised/p2p/blockchain based publishing platform.

I hope it can achieve a critical mass because it does look interesting, but I don't hear many people talking about it - even in tech circles.

https://lbry.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY

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Post by OldTimeCoffee »

vorpalhex wrote: post #157
OldTimeCoffee wrote: post #155

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It's in significant use in humans as a dewormer, though. It's used in humans to treat river blindness which is caused by a worm. It's also used for the prevention of worms in dogs. It's fair to call it a dewormer, even if you disagree with including the 'horse' part. It's not an anti-viral in any sense of the word.

Correct, and while it's use as an anti-viral has been noted pre-covid we don't understand what it's method of action is, or why it sometimes behaves as an anti-viral. I'm not recommending using drugs we don't understand or have a full picture of. I am recommending to stop calling it horse dewormer. At the very least call it an anti-parasitic in use in the 3rd and 2nd worlds.

You can drop the '3rd and 2nd worlds' part. It's used for the treatment of parasites in the 1st world as well.

I'm not a infectious diseases expert, but to my knowledge the viruses that it's been found to be effective against are all mosquito borne; it's just as likely related to it's toxic action on mosquitos in general. Still, it's all baseless conjecture on everyone's part. If someone cares to throw money at it, it's something that can be investigated.

At the end of the day just get the widely available vaccine and move on with life, like you would for other viruses that we've got vaccines for. I feel like we're all making this way harder than it has to be just so we can all continue to yell at each other.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by Macha »

caeril wrote: post #118
gambler wrote: post #87

Any large communication platform has a choice: either accept some form of content neutrality or become a petty and chaotic tyrant constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other. YouTube made its choice. Now, random videos and channels get demonetized, content gets deleted for no reason and people covering basic news speak in code to avoid the wrath of the idiot AI. In the background Google publishes bats…

> either accept some form of content neutrality or become a petty and chaotic tyrant constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other No, there is a middle ground that Google, with its army of engineers, could implement in a weekend: 1. You stop trying to assume you know what advertisers want their ads to be displayed on. 2. You implement a basic, fixed (but can be expanded) ACL-type system based on catego…

> YOU LET THE GOD DAMN ADVERTISERS DECIDE FOR THEIR OWN GOD DAMNED SELVES WHAT KIND OF CONTENT THEY'RE OK WITH ADVERTISING

Have you talked with advertisers? They're really twitchy about this stuff, they even have vendors for brand safety they'll want to include in their ads or have you integrate with if you're a platform like YouTube to rule out ads on anything that could show their brand in a bad light.

I don't use YouTube, but I thought this was what the demonetisation was - the creators were getting a trickle of revenue, but most of it was gone, sounds to me like the impacts of it being considered not "brand safe" and most advertises enable such controls reflexively.

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Post by ArtDev »

intpx wrote: post #102
christophilus wrote: post #71

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> ok so other than this channel it's all racism It's sad that that was your instant thought. My experience so far with Odysee has been pretty good. It's no YouTube, but for the channels I follow, it's good enough. I hope it continues to to build momentum.

the only thing sad is that its the reality of the situation. Tor started off with some pretty pie in the sky ideals and now over half of its active use is for illegal activity. Tech censorship doesn't even register on the scales of stuff that is de-platformed from social networking platforms.

A lot of the content removed on Youtube is fan fiction. Many companies are effectively IP trolls. Games Workshop, for example.

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Post by aembleton »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #58

As it often happens, again I discover a cool resource from the news about its termination. Is there by any chance a mirror of its content anywhere to download? If I were a YouTuber I would maintain an archive of my old videos available on ThePirateBay.

You can watch the channel at https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by betwixthewires »

ipaddr wrote: post #165
betwixthewires wrote: post #115

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Peertube is tube site software that you can run yourself. It is a way to run your own stuff. https://joinpeertube.org/

Curious how does the network deal with adult or censored content? If self-hosting does one need to join the network?

So "the network" in context of sites like Facebook or YouTube is a fancy marketing term for "the website." Peertube servers actually federate, so there is actually a network there.

You don't have to federate. As host, you can host whatever you want (you are of course subject to laws in the country you're hosting in) and censor whatever you want on your server. You can basically do anything you want.

If you host adult content like pornography it is very likely the larger federation will not federate with your server, and for adult content that isn't pornographic in nature it is probably best to require content warnings.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by drcongo »

burnished wrote: post #151
corobo wrote: post #48

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> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"

I see you are getting a lot of pushback and I think its unwarranted. I agree with you, the phrase is becoming tainted. I would like a way to differentiate between places that are wary of the whims of power and places where opinions are so appalling they can't be a part of polite society. We currently talk about them the same, and there has been an uptick of the latter recently that makes being able to differentiate m…

I'm the asker of the original question, and I actually agree with you on a lot of this. As soon as I read @fragileone and @iotku's excellent answers to my question my heart sank a little at the thought of a site even more racist than YouTube. Almost every site that pops up claiming an anti-censorship position is quickly filled with pretty abhorrent content. Downvoting someone on HN for pointing it out doesn't make it untrue.
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