The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated • Hacker News Board

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by vcxy » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:04 PM UTC

flavius29663 wrote: post #65

lolinder wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a red state and my experience is the opposite. I suspect it might be that when your view is the majority in your area, you're more inclined to shut out opposing ideas as "fringe". It's the "I don't know anyone who voted ___" effect.

I definitely know more democrats than republicans (my area votes 80% democrat). But they are highly educated people (think U Chicago, Georgia Tech etc.) still believing every opinion their favorite news outlet sells them. I find that disturbing. Not the fact that they believe most of the party lines, but believing and defending ALL of them, like the party can do no wrong.

My experience is also the opposite fwiw. To be fair, I don't think I know any democrats who actually like the party. They're more "not republican" than democrat. Maybe the democrats you've talked to are the true believers. The only example I can come up with that matches your experience is my dad, so maybe it's generational?

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by lucasyvas » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #17

The Linux Experiment is probably my favourite linux-focussed YouTube channel. Nick has been doing absolutely fantastic work and his channel being permanently deleted would be an absolute travesty and a clear mistake. He is producing high quality, thoughtful, inoffensive content. Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP, along with an apology and explanation from Google. Also, if you don't know the chan…

Does anyone have more context? This is one of my favourite Linux channels... what the fuck.

This drive-by algorithm BS is ridiculous.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by Enginerrrd » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:07 PM UTC

flavius29663 wrote: post #55

This is anecdotal, but in my experience democrat Americans actually believe everything that the party tells them. They quote the exact same lines, I hear the exact same phrase from different people, and when I ask further questions there is silence. e.g. "rich people stash their money" with absolutely nothing to back that up. Surprisingly, republicans can be more open to conflicting ideas and for debate, even though…

As someone who straddles the lines in the sand, I actually agree that conservatives I interact with seem to be the more open-minded cohort these days, but it's pretty marginal. The big difference is the amount of self-back-patting that liberals do about how "open-minded" they are and their agreement with standard narrative condemning conservatives as closed-minded or uneducated. Though, even that is mirrored by the other side to an extent.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by qwerty456127 » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:07 PM UTC

izacus wrote: post #74

qwerty456127 wrote: post #58

As it often happens, again I discover a cool resource from the news about its termination. Is there by any chance a mirror of its content anywhere to download? If I were a YouTuber I would maintain an archive of my old videos available on ThePirateBay.

The problem is that ThePirateBay will not pay you per view. YouTubers stay on YT because it pays out a slice of ad revenue and not because it's just a convenient distribution site. Making those videos costs an insane amount of time and money - which means that most YTers can't afford to do it for free. Any kind of YT competition needs to figure out on how to keep the revenue streams intact.

That's why I wrote "an archive of my OLD videos". They probably don't generate much revenue already.

Also, ThePirateBay does not compete with YouTube even in the cases of the same content being available on both the platforms. Most of the people want to watch the videos on-line, go to YouTube naturally and won't bother using torrents. Sophisticated people who want an off-line copy just use youtube-dl anyway. The actual YouTube audience will only go to ThePirateBay when they really can't access the videos on YouTube.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by maccolgan » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:08 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #2

Once again, using the private platform argument here: YouTube (owned by Google) reserves the right to terminate and de-platform anyone's account who has been in violation of YouTube's guidelines and terms of service. You can criticise, protest, appeal, scream or throw a tantrum about it, etc but you should finally see that this can happen to anyone sitting on private platforms like YouTube. YouTube will never change…

Private platforms can indeed do whatever they want, but I think there's a discussion to be had about whether what they are doing is right or wrong...

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by AcerbicZero » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:09 PM UTC

martin_a wrote: post #70

Uehreka wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.

> where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative Maybe I'm thinking too easy, but what about self-hosting. Some "all inclusive" hosting with Hugo or whatever static page builder you like. That should be enough to get your content out to the masses. Throw in Disqus if you really need to, set up an RSS feed and a newsletter and let's go.

Self hosting?

That sounds like an unregulated place for all the people who were thrown out by those with at least some ethics left.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by gambler » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:13 PM UTC

Any large communication platform has a choice: either accept some form of content neutrality or become a petty and chaotic tyrant constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other. YouTube made its choice. Now, random videos and channels get demonetized, content gets deleted for no reason and people covering basic news speak in code to avoid the wrath of the idiot AI. In the background Google publishes batshit crazy research papers that call automated propaganda "AI fairness" and relies on a horde of underpaid serfs bordering mental breakdown to make final decisions on content moderation. Welcome to the predicable future of your bad decisions.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by RegnisGnaw » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:17 PM UTC

gambler wrote: post #87

Any large communication platform has a choice: either accept some form of content neutrality or become a petty and chaotic tyrant constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other. YouTube made its choice. Now, random videos and channels get demonetized, content gets deleted for no reason and people covering basic news speak in code to avoid the wrath of the idiot AI. In the background Google publishes bats…

The choice of "content neutrality" is pretty much keyword also for:

1. constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other

2. advertising dropping you due to controversial content

3. government coming after you for controversial content

If I were a business, I'd go content moderation all the way. Less blow black and more steady income.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by betwixthewires » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:21 PM UTC

Uehreka wrote: post #42

enriquto wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP I for one am not looking forward to this. Youtube is no longer an acceptable platform for distributing your videos. If a person who makes good videos is forced out of youtube, that can only be a good thing. Hopefully their videos will help make another service more popular. Youtube terms of service are public and unacceptable. People who get burned by them had…

If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.

Does there need to be "a clear alternative?" A video host is a video host. I don't care where I watch videos, I only care about what I'm trying to watch. I never understood this insistence that a video has to be on a certain site. The more video hosting sites there are the better.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by happybirds07 » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

ersii wrote: post #69

happybirds07 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Under GDPR you have the right to data portability, i.e. you can demand your data in a commonly used digital format to take it to another provider.

Which usually, at least in Sweden means you'll get your data dump in a PDF. Not a joke, unfortunally.

It should be "structured, commonly-used and machine readable", and I'm not sure PDF qualifies for that. I'd file a complaint with IMY.

In any case, I've never received anything other than json, xml and csv. Jag är inte svenska, though.