TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

Post by lopis » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 9:58 AM UTC

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I wish someone at YouTube could explain, but the recommendation algo is nothing like what it used to be. Every refresh would bring a gem, now it's mostly the same videos, often from the same channel if I happened to watch a few in a row... Very odd.

yes, Youtube's recommendation algorithm got very bad. The front page always shows more or less the same videos - many of which I have already watched...

Post by benf76 » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 10:01 AM UTC

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The article also says "Data from app monitoring firm App Annie indicates that average time per user spent on the apps is higher for TikTok, indicating high levels of engagement." Now, I don't know for sure, but I cant imagine that YouTube is integrating App Annie metrics into their YouTube App, right? It's not like Google dont have their own metrics platform... And is TikTok really using App Annie? So where are they…

They use VPN, Ad blocker and every other apps which people indiscriminately give permissions to, They buyout such apps with significant number of users from the play/App stores and extrapolate the data collected through those apps. I wouldn't be surprised if publishers directly pay App Annie under the table to boost their stats. As far as YouTube screen-time is concerned Web, Game Consoles, Media centers & smart TVs…

Post by Abishek_Muthian » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 10:22 AM UTC

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Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #367

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They use VPN, Ad blocker and every other apps which people indiscriminately give permissions to, They buyout such apps with significant number of users from the play/App stores and extrapolate the data collected through those apps. I wouldn't be surprised if publishers directly pay App Annie under the table to boost their stats. As far as YouTube screen-time is concerned Web, Game Consoles, Media centers & smart TVs…

What are their mod policies against disabled? I think I read they don’t promote them at all due to any social risk..?

Post by vitorgrs » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 11:23 AM UTC

anshumankmr wrote: post #2

Something as massive as YouTube can be beaten. This feels like the circle of life, considering every empire that rises eventually falls too. Though I am not saying TikTok is the doom for YouTube since geo politics will play a significant role its future. And there are other metrics by which TikTok hasn’t probably caught up with YouTube yet like the size of the user base, revenue etc. What seems odd is how TikTok is m…

Post by okamiueru » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 11:48 AM UTC

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Don't they serve very different demographics and/or interests? I've been assuming TikTok is the equivalent of "what is trending today", where "what" is something related to dance moves, or other stuff I don't find very interesting. (Or, it's not that I find dance moves uninteresting, it's just that it's not something I'd want to spend time consuming). Are my assumptions wrong, and there is genuinely interesting, and…

> dance moves, or other stuff I don't find very interesting There are lots of different corners of TikTok, and for good or bad it's generally pretty good at forming some fairly niche communities. I have a couple of primarily dance-oriented creators I follow—none of them teenagers, fwiw—but the most interesting are the ones who use their platform to educate, whether it be about science-y stuff or music or history or w…