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Re: Minus

#91

Post by LegitShady »

soneca wrote: post #41

Tangential plug, I launched my own social network without feed, notifications, or even a way to find people there. It flopped everywhere I promoted it, but it is still online since I am on free tier of the host service. If anyone wants to check it: https://www.quidsentio.com

I think you built something that was by design a niche product. Big social networks experience network effects - when a bunch of your friends/family/etc are already on a free social network it makes the barrier/effort low.

If you have a social network like you made it requires that groups of people join it together, and that they know the other has it in advance, and that costs money to post beyond a certain number of posts - it's not clear what that they can get from you that they can't get from facebook or instagram already for free. It's not clear what you're offering that's better than those two.

The features of 'no feed, no notifications, no way to find people' isn't necessarily a plus to the overwhelming majority of users, and from your page I don't understand what you offer in your service that even someone who journals wants.

Re: Minus

#93

Post by britch »

simias wrote: post #44
abeppu wrote: post #16

I love this as an idea, but I suspect as a user, I would use either zero or one posts. I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive" patterns that develop elsewhere. Other things I've wanted: - Instagram with an ML layer that auto-rejects pics with faces or text. Landscapes, vistas, animals, architecture etc all would be welcome. - high latency Twitter, where no post is viewable until at l…

I really like like the idea of a "high latency" social network, effectively bringing back the feeling of old snail mail (but more public). 2 weeks seems unnecessarily extreme to me though, even 24h would probably be enough to severely limit the flame potential. It would also potentially mean that one could have a daily routine of checking for the new content and replies and writing your own stuff and you're good to g…

I like the "collaborative-newspaper" idea a lot.

Though I haven't used it much, this sounds like substack + RSS, that only refreshes once a day.

It's missing some interactivity I suppose

Re: Minus

#94

Post by Infernal »

simias wrote: post #44
abeppu wrote: post #16

I love this as an idea, but I suspect as a user, I would use either zero or one posts. I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive" patterns that develop elsewhere. Other things I've wanted: - Instagram with an ML layer that auto-rejects pics with faces or text. Landscapes, vistas, animals, architecture etc all would be welcome. - high latency Twitter, where no post is viewable until at l…

I really like like the idea of a "high latency" social network, effectively bringing back the feeling of old snail mail (but more public). 2 weeks seems unnecessarily extreme to me though, even 24h would probably be enough to severely limit the flame potential. It would also potentially mean that one could have a daily routine of checking for the new content and replies and writing your own stuff and you're good to g…

I’ve considered something similar, call it The Morning Post or some such. Choose your delivery/send time, and all your content gets posted (and all previously posted content gets revealed to you). Put some sane limit on the number of times you can change your post/delivery time (once a day?).

Re: Minus

#95

Post by phil294 »

noahtallen wrote: post #55
lord_and_xavier wrote: post #4

Yeah wordpress doesnt scale. hug of death

A raw HTML file won’t scale if it’s served from a potato. ;) This probably has more to do with the host & servers than WordPress.

The energy derived from a potato should probably be enough to serve a static webpage with 100 req/s. Even the highest-ranking HN posts should not result in more than five requests per second. It's beyond me how the "HN hug of death" has ever come to be an issue in any scenario.

Re: Minus

#96

Post by mhh__ »

simias wrote: post #44
abeppu wrote: post #16

I love this as an idea, but I suspect as a user, I would use either zero or one posts. I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive" patterns that develop elsewhere. Other things I've wanted: - Instagram with an ML layer that auto-rejects pics with faces or text. Landscapes, vistas, animals, architecture etc all would be welcome. - high latency Twitter, where no post is viewable until at l…

I really like like the idea of a "high latency" social network, effectively bringing back the feeling of old snail mail (but more public). 2 weeks seems unnecessarily extreme to me though, even 24h would probably be enough to severely limit the flame potential. It would also potentially mean that one could have a daily routine of checking for the new content and replies and writing your own stuff and you're good to g…

Is this not email?

I really hope to be able to report back in about a year or so on ways to better communicate. At first I thought, maybe the best online dialectics is just walls of careful text rather than tweets. Now I try doing that, and I make careless mistakes and I can barely parse a paragraph without losing my train of thought.

The solution I think is explicit structure. Arguments usually form a (for now let's say) DAG, let's present them that way explicitly. Metadata, i.e. human emotion can be annotated onto that - emoji, good or bad vibes? If you can diff that graph even better.

Argument Maps are kind of a non-technological approach to this: https://fbistudies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/20150417_R... really impressed me.

In fact, working in a fully-remote, fairly high information density (finance) company, I think the work of the pioneer cyberneticists (and potentially Soviet ones, not sure on that as I can't speak Russian) could be immensely helpful for modelling and manipulating the spread of information and humanity within a company.

Re: Minus

#97

Post by abeppu »

simias wrote: post #44
abeppu wrote: post #16

I love this as an idea, but I suspect as a user, I would use either zero or one posts. I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive" patterns that develop elsewhere. Other things I've wanted: - Instagram with an ML layer that auto-rejects pics with faces or text. Landscapes, vistas, animals, architecture etc all would be welcome. - high latency Twitter, where no post is viewable until at l…

I really like like the idea of a "high latency" social network, effectively bringing back the feeling of old snail mail (but more public). 2 weeks seems unnecessarily extreme to me though, even 24h would probably be enough to severely limit the flame potential. It would also potentially mean that one could have a daily routine of checking for the new content and replies and writing your own stuff and you're good to g…

I picked 2 weeks because I wanted to discourage talking about the news. Or responding/reacting to something dumb a public figure did or said.

Re: Minus

#98

Post by awb »

nacs wrote: post #88
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #14

Interesting idea, but what's stopping someone from creating a second account?

Nothing and that's exactly what would happen if it became popular. You'd get @kanyewest7, @kanyewest289, @kanyewest3058, etc. Also, the younger you are when you join the network, the fewer posts you get per year. If you join as an 18 year old, you have a little over 1 post per year remaining. If you join at 90, you have 10 posts per year, etc.

Presumably they could ban duplicate accounts.

But yeah 100 posts per year or 1 per day would be interesting too and wouldn’t render your account as useless when you max out temporarily instead of permanently.

Re: Minus

#99

Post by abeppu »

dylan604 wrote: post #69
abeppu wrote: post #16

I love this as an idea, but I suspect as a user, I would use either zero or one posts. I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive" patterns that develop elsewhere. Other things I've wanted: - Instagram with an ML layer that auto-rejects pics with faces or text. Landscapes, vistas, animals, architecture etc all would be welcome. - high latency Twitter, where no post is viewable until at l…

>- Clearly just for entertainment and not information Facebook alternative, in which GPT bots produce a significant fraction of posts, impersonating users and making stuff up. Everyone quickly learns you can't trust it, but it can still be cute/fun/humorous. Aren't we pretty much there now with a so many bots posting?

I think a bunch of people still credulously believe most of what they read. But if some days the bot actively impersonated _you_, and people reacted to stuff it said on your behalf, I think you'd have to grok pretty quickly that a lot of content is fake. So let's do that for every user, unpredictably, a reasonable percentage of the time.
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