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Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by kodah »

platz wrote: post #28
kodah wrote: post #17

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https://revolt.chat/about They're marketing to a privacy aware audience which is, unfortunately these days, political to some.

Ok having read the about page, it starts to tell a narrative. It's helpful and gives me a better idea about the motivations behind thebproject, but as a brand name you dont get to force everyone to read your /about when they first see the name Revolt. But on the specific issue, consider if someone is a proponent for privacy, but isn't sure if the're joining software created by activists they disagree with, maybe the…

Amateur activism across our political spectrum has been a net-negative in my opinion, so I agree, but privacy has no chosen political party or agenda. In that way, I'd caution you from thinking of it "politically" in terms of camps and more "politically" in terms of policy changes needed that both of our parties object to.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by zamadatix »

DenseComet wrote: post #234
zamadatix wrote: post #227

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500 isn't really asking for much, Signal does up to 1,000 in a group using standard direct messaging encryption (client side fanout). Whatsapp uses a shared hash ratchet and just spins up new keys when someone leaves, this allows it to do 10,000. Discord gets to 25,000 active users before they move to throwing resources at the problem for a hard max of 500,000 total users able to join (but not be active at once, that…

Discord doesn't do E2E encryption, although those numbers for Signal and Whatsapp are pretty impressive.

I probably wasn't as clear as I could have been on that. The Discord numbers were meant to provide a point of comparison on how little e2ee really impacts scaling active users vs a traditional system but I wasn't very explicit that's why it was being mentioned.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by Zomatree »

cassonmars wrote: post #233

Also working on a Discord alternative, albeit my project is a decentralized version — neat to see the space has traction. One thing I couldn’t quickly surmise: it looks like your services are centralized and neither servers/spaces (whatever terminology you’re using for logical groupings of communities) nor DMs have support for encryption. Do you have plans to support this? I don’t mean to ask this as a FUD spreader,…

Hi, one of the revolt developers here, we plan to have e2ee on DMs.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by JoshTriplett »

superkuh wrote: post #164
Macha wrote: post #143

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You can of course install from your package manager [1][2][3][4]. If you're not going to install from your trusted source then I'm not sure curl https:// ... | bash is really worse than downloading and double clicking a msi/dmg/deb/rpm. Especially if you're not going to verify that or verify it using keys downloaded from the same https host. [1] Homebrew - https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/HEAD/Formula/.…

>You can of course install from your package manager Debian 11 was released a couple weeks ago and the rustc it ships with is already so out of date (7 months old, gasp!) software written for modern rust versions can't be compiled with it. And this isn't a Debian only problem.

The Rust packaged in Debian works to build Debian packages; for that purpose, it's fine. For other Rust work, I'm hoping that at some point Debian packages rustup, which would let people use Debian's secure trust chain to bootstrap into rustup's secure trust chain.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by geozh »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #49

Instead of yet another app/platform, why not Matrix protocol?

> why not Matrix protocol?

here's why: https://gist.github.com/maxidorius/5736fd09c9194b7a6dc03b6b8...

you're a clown if you think Matrix or this new Revolt thing are any better than the garbage fire that Discord is

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by antcas »

cassonmars wrote: post #233

Also working on a Discord alternative, albeit my project is a decentralized version — neat to see the space has traction. One thing I couldn’t quickly surmise: it looks like your services are centralized and neither servers/spaces (whatever terminology you’re using for logical groupings of communities) nor DMs have support for encryption. Do you have plans to support this? I don’t mean to ask this as a FUD spreader,…

Do you have a link to your project or a way to follow your progress? I'm interested in decentralized community platforms.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by mumblemumble »

ejj28 wrote: post #265
tomc1985 wrote: post #235

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We want to make sure it's not being written in Electron

I welcome apps using Electron, most Electron apps I use work great and have nice UIs that are consistent across platforms

As far as I can tell, Electron is the only cross-platform UI toolkit where it's even possible to get accessibility right on every OS.

At least for me, the story quite simply ends there. No, it's not the GUI toolkit I wish I had, but, if the goal is to develop for the 21st century, then I think that being accessible is the ethical choice. And, given the current tech landscape, that goal is satisfied by three options: Electron, developing three different native desktop GUIs, or deciding not to support less popular platforms.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by dagmx »

edem wrote: post #244
dagmx wrote: post #232

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What makes it niche to you? It's got quite a strong foothold now in a lot of major companies, and projects.

Just look at the numbers.

What does that mean? The numbers show that a lot of companies are using Rust. Which numbers do you think make it seem niche?

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by steveklabnik »

stiltzkin wrote: post #288
Zomatree wrote: post #109

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Hi, one of the revolt developers here, we wanted something contained and selfhosted instead of something federated, see https://developers.revolt.chat/faq/federation on why we dont plan on adding federation

> From personal experience, I’ve generally found federated protocols to not be suitable for real time communication, Matrix is incredibly buggy at times and it’s left a sour taste in my mouth. Not sure this is a good reason for not adding it, Element is not buggy at all.

I run into Element bugs all the time. It's not the worst, but "not buggy at all" is not my experience.
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