TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

Post by throwaway6734 » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 9:23 PM UTC

rakoo wrote: post #161

MathCodeLove wrote: post #127

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I see where you're coming from, but Youtube isn't nearly as opaque as Tiktok. You can actually search for videos on youtube, typically content is longer and has a higher production quality which reduces probability of doom-scrolling. As someone else mentioned, TikTok is intentionally designed to be addictive and gamified, much more so that youtube or facebook. And, objectively speaking, the US government is far prefe…

> the CCP is still putting Muslims in concentration camps I don't want to enter this debate because it detracts from the main point, but the US has been putting Latino people in concentration camps. As a fellow frenchman I can only agree with what was said before: TikTok is bad, but Youtube isn't much better.

Post by whywhywhywhy » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 9:24 PM UTC

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pilooch wrote: post #59

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TikTok algorithm is like a tamgotchi with short memory. The echo chamber is actual much less than on other systems, or at least this is my actual understanding. I've been working on AI and ML for 20+y now, I'm always interested is testing the systems out there from the user side. Overall, I've been surprised by TikTok, as I did find it very enjoyable actually, and easily 'trainable'.

Why does YouTube not change their algorithim. It is clearly sub tier to tik tok, they have the data and skill set to provide new and entertaining videos but the recommended feed has been so stale and stagnant for a few years, constantly pushing videos you’ve seen or ones you clearly don’t want to watch. How much of tik tok’s success do you think is their algorithim for recommending content. I heard from numerous peop…

Post by yunusabd » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 9:28 PM UTC

umeshunni wrote: post #7

ourcat wrote: post #6

"YouTube still leads TikTok in overall time spent..." What's the longest length video that TikTok supports? (I don't use it)

15 minutes

Post by blitzar » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

throwaway6734 wrote: post #171

rakoo wrote: post #161

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> the CCP is still putting Muslims in concentration camps I don't want to enter this debate because it detracts from the main point, but the US has been putting Latino people in concentration camps. As a fellow frenchman I can only agree with what was said before: TikTok is bad, but Youtube isn't much better.

>I don't want to enter this debate because it detracts from the main point, but the US has been putting Latino people in concentration camps. This is a bad faith comparison

Post by blitzar » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 9:35 PM UTC

maverwa wrote: post #76

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> We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire countries. Note that non american feel the same way about google, netflix, amazon &co

Just a single point, but as a non american, I can say that I do not feel "the same way" exactly. Its close, in that I think, the discussion in the EU on Huaweis network equipment in telco nets, is a little bit overheated and I'd like to see the same requirements to be enacted on, for example, CISCO, whos security track record is ... not that good? But I still think that 'chinese company owning a majority of internet…