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Plans for a new city in the American desert

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Re: Plans for a new city in the American desert

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What would it take for the middle class homeowners of America to prioritize housing for everyone rather than the price of their home?

Maybe replacing income taxes largely with property taxes? If the home is not seen as a source of tax free imputed income, then other things become more attractive, like investing in startups. It’s not a crazy idea. Switzerland taxes the imputed rental income on your own home. 1. https://www.credit-suisse.com/articles/private-banking/2018/...

It's better to replace income taxes with land value tax, which doesn't tax the property built on it.

Anyway, your proposal still run into the issue of acquiring political will. It may work after it's implemented, but not before it.

Re: Plans for a new city in the American desert

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It's mind blowing how much land the US has. I live in India and here finding farmland is not easy to say least, while I see lot of cheap land available in the US all time with much more facilities than a small city in India would have. I've always wondered why America has not built many more cities with all that available land.

Most of that cheap land you are seeing available in the US is not close to what you'd consider farmland. Consider the location of the 100th meridian as it somewhat bisects the continent. West of that line, you cannot really grow anything without irrigation. East of that line, and to some extent there's enough rainfall that stuff will grow on its own, albeit not optimally. Most the cheap available land you will find i…

This is the basis of the plot of The Sea of Grass, a classic Spencer Tracy / Katherine Hepburn movie. Tracy is a rancher trying to make this argument to some optimistic farmers. They see it as self-serving, which they are right about, but so is Tracy. Tragedy ensues.

Re: Plans for a new city in the American desert

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Why would anyone move there? You need work to attract workers. Why would any company move/start there? Middle of the desert smh. Why not build it underwater and get rid of all the pesky ethical/moral laws, allow any biotech research and free experimentation on humans?

Speak for yourself. Middle of the desert is amazing given there is a source of water (aquifer, desalination plant etc.). Deserts are clean, nice and hot year round, not humid and extremely conducive to solar energy.

Re: Plans for a new city in the American desert

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"Build it and they will come" is fascinating but hasn't even worked for Dubai, and the Emirates have poured into Dubai way more than 400B since they decided that they'd open themselves up to the world. Dubai development started in 1980s. Still today Dubai is made up of Westeners who made money in their home country and they relocated there blinded by the lights and the promise of an "endless summer" (matter of fact i…

What are you on about? More than 50% of Dubai is Indians and Pakistanis and not in a second class citizen way you’re imagining. Most businesses, LEO, administration are south Asians. Not sure why you’re latching on to the small minority of westerners that live there.

Re: Plans for a new city in the American desert

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Given how zoning and urban design tend to have been done in US cities -- that is, very badly -- I'm not opposed to this. It even sounds intriguing, but I have a hard time personally finding a city in a desert to be attractive, even if the urban design is great.
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