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TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by 28433552 »

lm28469 wrote: post #21
MathCodeLove wrote: post #11

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…

> We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire countries. Note that non american feel the same way about google, netflix, amazon &co

I feel that way about Google, Netflix, and Amazon. I’m an American…

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by buryat »

TikTok will surpass both Youtube/Instagram in terms of videos watched, tiktok will also change the way we consume content and how we interact with it. They also came further in solving comments to videos unlike Youtube where comments section is a toxic wasteland.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by DalasNoin »

The headline is a bit misleading

in the article: "average time per user spent on the apps is higher for TikTok... However, YouTube retains the top spot for overall time spent - not per user - as it has many more users overall."

The average TikTok user spents more time, which is still interesting. Maybe kids just have more time on their hands.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by colesantiago »

finfinfin wrote: post #32
colesantiago wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who cares about china, isn't this not the same for US companies? why the constant obsession with china? this just complete fear mongering, let the kids play on it.

Because China is an authoritarian regime?

So? TikTok is just an app, what is point?

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Post by refenestrator »

finfinfin wrote: post #32
colesantiago wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who cares about china, isn't this not the same for US companies? why the constant obsession with china? this just complete fear mongering, let the kids play on it.

Because China is an authoritarian regime?

What do you call a nation that spends 800B on the military while their infrastructure rots, routinely sponsors coups all over their hemisphere and maintains an aggressive forward military posture all over the planet?

A democracy.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by Snd_ »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #11

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…

As a European: this is extremely funny. America has been doing this for years. Apparently only when it's not America doing these things it becomes a problem?

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by neither_color »

anshumankmr wrote: post #2

Something as massive as YouTube can be beaten. This feels like the circle of life, considering every empire that rises eventually falls too. Though I am not saying TikTok is the doom for YouTube since geo politics will play a significant role its future. And there are other metrics by which TikTok hasn’t probably caught up with YouTube yet like the size of the user base, revenue etc. What seems odd is how TikTok is m…

I think they're very different platforms serving completely different content. I see tiktok as instagram/twitter/snapchat's competition rather than youtube's. If you go back several years on youtube(like 10 years back) you'll find a lot more casual low-res videos of people being goofy/interesting without any agenda to build a following. Nowadays youtubers are all "Hey guys thanks for clicking on my clickbait title don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe I know you're here because of the title but I'm going to do a long intro about something else because I really need this to be 10 minutes long." To be fair many of these are great documentary/educational/infotainment/explainer series on Youtube that I won't find anywhere else. Wendover or Real Engineering are more well-known examples but there's a long-tail of niche history and economics accounts I like to follow that formats like tiktok won't serve anytime soon.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by pilooch »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #11

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…

TikTok algorithm is like a tamgotchi with short memory. The echo chamber is actual much less than on other systems, or at least this is my actual understanding. I've been working on AI and ML for 20+y now, I'm always interested is testing the systems out there from the user side. Overall, I've been surprised by TikTok, as I did find it very enjoyable actually, and easily 'trainable'.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Post by colesantiago »

mcclosdl wrote: post #46
colesantiago wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who cares about china, isn't this not the same for US companies? why the constant obsession with china? this just complete fear mongering, let the kids play on it.

We'll see how you feel when China takes over the world and your kids are only allowed to play video games 8pm-9pm on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday... unless you're Muslim in which case all of you can work in a labor camp with no rights or technology.

OK, but irrelevant.

What has this got to do with TikTok?

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