15 seconds is the attention span teachers are going to have to compete with and try to teach. YouTube wasn’t mindless and short enough.
TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK
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#32I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…
who cares about china, isn't this not the same for US companies? why the constant obsession with china? this just complete fear mongering, let the kids play on it.
Because China is an authoritarian regime?
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#33It’s the new drug
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#34A couple of years ago, I noticed the youtube recommendations that would get were a lot less interesting, though still relevant to me somehow. At some point I started seeing a lot more "mainstream" content, especially after media companies figured out that they needed to have a youtube presence in order to stay relevant. So I wonder if the algorithm the switched to had something to do with them potentially losing atte…
I feel the same. Recommendations are as simple on youtube as “get top 10 videos in your country”
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#35I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…
The obvious answer is that most people just want to watch funny and entertaining videos, and don't care about some externalities which don't even seem real to them.
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#36I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…
> We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire countries. Note that non american feel the same way about google, netflix, amazon &co
Nope
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#37Something as massive as YouTube can be beaten. This feels like the circle of life, considering every empire that rises eventually falls too. Though I am not saying TikTok is the doom for YouTube since geo politics will play a significant role its future. And there are other metrics by which TikTok hasn’t probably caught up with YouTube yet like the size of the user base, revenue etc. What seems odd is how TikTok is m…
I think they're just different markets. YT is doing fine, revenue is up 30% YOY and all their viewer and channel growth numbers are very healthy.
YT has some knock-off of Stories but I have never used it. But unfortunately a lot of creators I watch (even some guys who explain very involved technical stuff) make videos for it now and label it #shorts which is annoying since I usually watch YouTube on my laptop or iPad.
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#38I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…
> Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft?
Unless you've read some new news I haven't, not any more than Google (YouTube) or Facebook have. Why is TikTok different?
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#39Note that this is watch time *per active user* lest anyone interprets the title as TikTok having more total active user-time.
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#40I feel like I'm going crazy. Hasn't TikTok been proven malicious in it's excessive user tracking and data theft? Why does everyone I know still use it? Outside of privacy concerns, doesn't the blackbox algorithm make anyone worry? We're building automated echochambers for an entire population. We're giving a Chinese company the ability to control the content consumption, and therefore beliefs and knowledge, of entire…
It's no different to most other social networks that commit mass abuse of user data and track everyone, everywhere.
Being a US-based company doesn't make this any better, just look at Facebook.
The only people who worry are people on HN. Most other people aren't aware of what's going on, or just don't care.