Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018) • Hacker News Board

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#31

Post by lamontcg » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 4:25 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #27

lamontcg wrote: post #4

> the correct dose A single correct dose is a myth. The author even sort of notes that with the differences between teenagers, 25 year olds and the elderly. There's also a wide variety of sleep disorders which are touched on in the article. I've suffered with 2.5mg before for long enough to understand that it doesn't work for me, no matter how many studies you have with 95% CL that the dose is much lower. The 5mg tab…

I'm not sure you can trust the numbers on unregulated supplements anyway.

yeah this is a reasonably good point. i do better when the label says 5mg.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#32

Post by elchief » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 4:39 AM UTC

Webber Super Sleep (melatonin, 5-HTP, L-Theanine) changed my life for the much, much better

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#33

Post by dominotw » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 4:39 AM UTC

I used melatonin for about 7 years before i stopped it because it gave me vertigo. I am not 100% sure that melatonin was direct contributor to my vertigo, but my vertigo did get better after i stopped using melatonin.

Please research the side effects before you try this. It is not completly harmless because its 'natural'/ otc ect , i think its even regulated in some countries like the UK.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#34

Post by CryptoPunk » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 4:42 AM UTC

Melatonin is also the most powerful known antioxidant:

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3921/9/11/1088/pdf

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#35

Post by joyeuse6701 » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 4:47 AM UTC

fnord77 wrote: post #25

I don't think his "What is the right dose of melatonin?" is correct. My doctor told me to take 3mg. 3mg really works well for me. Anything less and I don't sleep.

Using it as a sedative is different from the 0.3mg purpose the writer alludes to.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#36

Post by etaioinshrdlu » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 4:58 AM UTC

Hmmph... I'm taking 20mg most nights. One 10mg at bedtime, then another 5 hours later if I wake up again.

Even that isn't enough to really put me to sleep if I'm stressed out.

For me, "more is more" seems to be true...

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#37

Post by joelrunyon » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

Amazed at the dosages of melatonin that people will take without thinking about it. It seems that the side effect profile is a lot greater than most people let on.

https://impossible.co/blogs/health/melatonin-side-effects

I've found a magnesium + l-theanine combo works wonders without any hormone interference or dependency issues to worry about.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#38

Post by busymom0 » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 5:08 AM UTC

I often found that small doses of Melatonin worked much better for me and didn't give me headaches the next day. I buy the smaller dose available (3mg at my store though some places have 1mg too). I split the 3mg into half. So I take around 1.5mg which works good enough for me.

I also found the fancier "Melatonin Plus with L-Theanine and 5-HTP" to be not just expensive but also gave me severe headaches next day.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#39

Post by c3534l » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 5:11 AM UTC

> I am not a sleep specialist.

Then you shouldn't be writing an article about sleep as if you were an expert. Why on Earth should I trust anything this man says if the first line of the article is about how he's not qualified to give the advice he's giving?

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know (2018)

#40

Post by Rastonbury » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 5:15 AM UTC

c3534l wrote: post #39

> I am not a sleep specialist. Then you shouldn't be writing an article about sleep as if you were an expert. Why on Earth should I trust anything this man says if the first line of the article is about how he's not qualified to give the advice he's giving?

I sort of got past that, but later in the piece author gives a "parsimonious theory" of why Melatonin makes people wake up early, I just closed the tab, they were basically just guessing