Russia asks Google to clamp down on Navalny′s ‘Smart Voting′

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Post by t23 » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 12:55 AM UTC

Russia asks Google to clamp down on Navalny′s ‘Smart Voting′
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Post by amerine » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 1:17 AM UTC

Disgusting. I hope Google ignores.

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Post by rektide » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 1:18 AM UTC

for all the modern self loathing of tech, it ongoingly feels to me like we have just barely scratched tbe surface of what connected technologies could do for us. i dont know how probable it is that there be any change- any people feeling more empowered amid their authoritarian oppressors- from an communication system like this. but that the government is so afraid of it is certainly promising.

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Post by trhway » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:14 AM UTC

a bit of context - the network of Navalny's organizations "The fund to fight corruption" has been officially designated as an extremist organization, and any association with it after such a designation is a crime, and Navalny is facing additional charges for creating an extremist organization. (The organization supposedly acted against foundations of Russian state, and there is no joke lost that corruption is the foundation of the modern Russian state).

The "Smart voting" has a lot of connections to "The fund to fight corruption", so the Russian state can go here pretty far. A comment from a political pundit in the top Russian commercial media:

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4868616

"There is a technical capacity to block. The government understands the disadvantages of it, and initially will try to make Google to cooperate and to block by their own means. If such "goodwill" approach wouldn't work, the government will force it the hard way."

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Post by glaucon » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:19 AM UTC

amerine wrote: post #2

Disgusting. I hope Google ignores.

Don't hold your breath.

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Post by bpodgursky » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:27 AM UTC

glaucon wrote: post #5

amerine wrote: post #2

Disgusting. I hope Google ignores.

Don't hold your breath.

HN has a very split mind when it comes to deciding exactly when Google is entitled to ignore the local government.

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Post by phkahler » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:31 AM UTC

trhway wrote: post #4

a bit of context - the network of Navalny's organizations "The fund to fight corruption" has been officially designated as an extremist organization, and any association with it after such a designation is a crime, and Navalny is facing additional charges for creating an extremist organization. (The organization supposedly acted against foundations of Russian state, and there is no joke lost that corruption is the fo…

I sometimes wonder... Do the leaders of such corrupt states think that is a better way to run things, and if so why? I might guess it's as simple as "anything else would be worse for me personally" but that seems to simplistic for a guy like Putin. And if they dont think it's better, then why not change it? Inertia? Backlash? Don't know how to get there from here?

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Post by mynameisash » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:35 AM UTC

bpodgursky wrote: post #6

glaucon wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't hold your breath.

HN has a very split mind when it comes to deciding exactly when Google is entitled to ignore the local government.

I'm guessing it's because some local governments are more deserving of being ignored than others.

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Post by Nicksil » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:37 AM UTC

bpodgursky wrote: post #6

glaucon wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't hold your breath.

HN has a very split mind when it comes to deciding exactly when Google is entitled to ignore the local government.

>HN has a very split mind when it comes to deciding exactly when Google is entitled to ignore the local government.

HN is comprised of a great many individuals. The differing perspectives and worldview are a good thing.

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Post by chrischen » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 2:49 AM UTC

phkahler wrote: post #7

trhway wrote: post #4

a bit of context - the network of Navalny's organizations "The fund to fight corruption" has been officially designated as an extremist organization, and any association with it after such a designation is a crime, and Navalny is facing additional charges for creating an extremist organization. (The organization supposedly acted against foundations of Russian state, and there is no joke lost that corruption is the fo…

I sometimes wonder... Do the leaders of such corrupt states think that is a better way to run things, and if so why? I might guess it's as simple as "anything else would be worse for me personally" but that seems to simplistic for a guy like Putin. And if they dont think it's better, then why not change it? Inertia? Backlash? Don't know how to get there from here?

The best way to run things is the way I run things.