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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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I pasted an email I sent to Protonmail above. If they can't come up with language that's clear, use text from their privacy policy verbatim. Start educating users not to trust anything but what's in the policy, and even treat that as adversarial.

Devils advocate: Why trust the policy. Can you enforce it. If yes, then how.

Agreed -- "even treat that as adversarial".

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #95

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> That your emails are supposedly stored encrypted, that if other services support it end-to-end email encryption supposedly can be enabled easily, and that supposedly you cannot be served targeted ads because they cannot read the contents of your email (not that they have ads anyway). Gmail does all of this for free though, right?

The last point very much not so - having my email provided as a free product by the world's largest ad company isn't a relationship I want to pursue.

Is the last point "that supposedly you cannot be served targeted ads because they cannot read the contents of your email"?

Gmail Pro (paid G Suite) has never done that, and Gmail Perso (Free) hasn't done that since 2017.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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"Also, our VPNs are useless"

_all_ VPNs are useless. They are the biggest security theater and a massive success of marketing. But really, it's completely bazaar to trust a VPN provider. They provide protection from your local network, but you they can do all the same things and more.

*bizarre Not bazaar. And really both words are spelled quite bizarrely.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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I guess there isn’t much Protonmail can do if the prosecutor shows up with an ~Interpol~ Europol warrant. I wonder what this “activist” did to earn himself Europol attention. At least before the world went insane, that would only happen for serious crimes.

Interpol warrants are widely used for fighting political opponents [ https://stockholmcf.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Abuse-Of-... ] [ http://www.opinione.it/societa/2017/08/29/claudia-candelmo-e... ]

I found this informative article [1], and another [2] on the misuse of the so-called Interpol Red Notice, which I assume is like a BOLO, but not truely a warrant.

[1] https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-an-interpol-re...

[2] https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/weaponizing-inte...

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Disclaimer: Paying Protonmail customer I wanted to test how Protonmail is doing for new users I created an account from scratch just now over Tor. 1. Am asked to verify new account by entering a cell phone (edit: this is horrible. They lie and say account creation is anonymous, as pointed out by the poster below) 2. Upon login, "Basic" logs are selected which do not display IP. You can enable "Advanced" logs to log I…

I really appreciate the distinctions you made.

Welp.......Now, please excuse me, I need to go check my Protonmail settings pronto....

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Anyone that uses ANY electronic device to plan and arrange clandestine opetations - IS AN IDIOT.

Do tell, how do you plan your clandestine operations?

By using the classics of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histiaeus#Ionian_revolt_(499-4...

Sure the bitrate is a bit slow and it's UDP only but our governments have proved over and over again that they can't learn from history.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Anyone that uses ANY electronic device to plan and arrange clandestine opetations - IS AN IDIOT.

Do tell, how do you plan your clandestine operations?

All analogue.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Anyone that uses ANY electronic device to plan and arrange clandestine opetations - IS AN IDIOT.

Do tell, how do you plan your clandestine operations?

I am betting on ravens

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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_all_ VPNs are useless. They are the biggest security theater and a massive success of marketing. But really, it's completely bazaar to trust a VPN provider. They provide protection from your local network, but you they can do all the same things and more.

Yes. Yes! I’ve never understood how people argue that they are somehow better than an ISP by default.

My ISP is subject to my local laws. Which are not good, in terms of my privacy.

My VPN provider is not - but is obviously subject to their local laws. Which are almost certainly also not good for my privacy either.

Spreading the threat across two different jurisdictions is without doubt "somehow better" than just using my ISP, at least in the case of protection against snooping by non serious crime law enforcement.

(Where I am, organisations like local councils, the taxi commission, fishing inspectors, and dog catchers - can all access our "mandatory telecommunications metal data retention" stuff with very little oversight... While my VPN is still in five eyes, so there's no point pretending national security, intelligence, or serious crime like terrorism/drugtrafficing would have no trouble getting cross jurisdictional access, I'm pretty sure the fishing inspectors or dog catchers won't have that sort of access.)

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