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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by sweetbitter »

throwawayswede wrote: post #115

This is seriously messed up. Purely because their marketing has been very aggressive to promote total and complete anonymity, directly sometimes and mostly indirectly. If it’s true that the French wording makes it seem like they don’t keep logs at all whatsoever, then I believe the person arrested has grounds to sue them, and I would hope they do. But even if not, I consider their marketing is a total and complete da…

Generally speaking, it is wise to assume that any entity under which trust is centralized is far easier for a government to persuade. At least DuckDuckGo is friendly to Tor.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by sweetbitter »

KeepFlying wrote: post #198
calvinmorrison wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't matter if you are going to an internal onion address

Why not? It would just mean that the NSA needs to own more routers than it would to break TOR->Public internet routing. From what I understand, connecting to an onion address 'just' involves 6 routers, not the typical 3. (Of course an oversimplification.) Or am I misunderstanding your threat model here?

https://svn-archive.torproject.org/svn/projects/design-paper...

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by keewee7 »

pessimizer wrote: post #206
mytailorisrich wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case it seems that they are a far left group that has decided to squat a restaurant for good old 'class struggle' reasons and vowed not to back down... It also seems that it is not any restaurant but one of the 'victims' of the 2015 terrorist attacks [1] Basically political extremists trying to disguise themselves as environmental activists. Not interesting people, to say the least. [1] https://www.tellerrepo…

Ah, they're sitting in a restaurant in protest. Clearly insane terrorists.

No, they are just criminals who violently take over other people's property and vandalize it.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

Thorrez wrote: post #155
ivan_gammel wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBH in 2021 people engaging in potentially dangerous activities should be literate enough to understand, that no business will guarantee them full security and decline all requests from authorities to disclose their identity. The wording you suggest is equivalent of „do not dry your cat in microwave“ instruction - a legal protection from dumb customers, that does not contribute meaningfully to safety. For the non-Swi…

Sure, the wording istingray suggested is a bit over the top. But the existing wording "By default, we do not keep any IP logs" is misleading. Why even say it? They should simply delete it.

It is in contrast to the immediately following paragraph, which discusses a user-controllable setting that does cause ip logs to be retained permanently.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by YLYvYkHeB2NRNT »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #156
akimball wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not protection FROM your customers. It is protection FOR your customers. Most customers are not technically astute

A customer that specifically chooses Proton for privacy, must read and agree to privacy policy, which explicitly states, that Proton may in fact keep temporary IP logs and that user may opt in for login IP logs. Requests from authorities may ask for this kind of information and Proton will have to provide it. The „opt-in“ part for login logs is particularly interesting, because in fact Proton recommends this as a sec…

Anyone that uses ANY electronic device to plan and arrange clandestine opetations - IS AN IDIOT.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by hnaccy »

falcolas wrote: post #226
georgyo wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

_all_ VPNs are useless. They are the biggest security theater and a massive success of marketing. But really, it's completely bazaar to trust a VPN provider. They provide protection from your local network, but you they can do all the same things and more.

Yes. Yes! I’ve never understood how people argue that they are somehow better than an ISP by default.

I get letters and my internet turned off if I torrent on my ISP I don't using VPN. Simple as.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Post by keewee7 »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #134

What does Youth for Climate do that required arrest? I’m unfamiliar with them.

They are far-left extremists who use climate change as an excuse to vandalize small businesses. This dude was arrested for occupying and vandalizing a restaurant.
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