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What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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Still hundreds of us in London going out every week and my mate’s skate school has FLOURISHED during lockdown with online lessons being taken up by ice skaters, locked out of rinks everywhere…

Hey where do you recommend skating in London? Also, what blades would you recommend for a noob? Been looking at FR X or FR 2 but have no idea what I’m buying really

My experience was quads are way, way easier to learn and skate on than inline. Give them a try too maybe.

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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another part of this that is important imo is that inline was in a large degree absorbed by its more successful analog: freeskiing.

What is freeskiing? I have never heard that term Edit: googled it, and it appears to be a snow sport... not sure how that would be a competitor to rollerblading? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeskiing

freeskiing::inline. the tricks and the motions are the exact same, you can just go bigger/faster/higher and there is more money in it. i can only speak anecdotally but pretty much all of the of the 'serious' rollerblade kids i knew growing up went over to competitive skiing because that's where the opportunities were.

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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About 10 years ago I read a bunch of former roller bladers and skateboarders talking about the death of rollerblading in the 1990s. It is much easier to do tricks on rollerblades, also it was viewed as a "gay" activity in a much more homophobic time in society. There was a picture of a rollerblader in a skating mag and they photoshopped pink makeup on his face and made his rollerblades purple. Skaters started calling…

They called it gay because thet didn't like it, not vice versa.

Roller blades are cringy and awkward by nature, because they are stuck on your feet and you can't get off them as needed, unlike a skateboard or bike, and they awkward to balance on when you aren't zooming, unlike rollerskates.

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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Brief history of inline freestyle rollerblading in Ukraine. It had declined as well, but head a peak much later than US.

2003-2008 -- this was rise period of skating. Primarily in Kyiv, but also Luhansk, Donetsk, Kharkiv, Odessa

2006 -- Sebastian Lafarge creates SEBA brand and Seba FR1 boot. For some reason it becomes #1 choice for "pro" skaters in Ukraine. Maybe because it is well suited for freestyle lifestyle? Anyway, more and more white-black boots had appeared.

I think French and Russian existing roller cultures greatly influenced the whole Ukrainian movement.

2008-2013 -- "boom" of inline skating in Ukraine. During this time originated several different skater subgroups:

* yamakasi -- as a tribute to movie "Yamakasi", where tracers gather together to watch sunrise from high point. Skaters chatted which hill of Kyiv they plan to watch sunrise, skated whole night, gathered in one place and watched the event. Those meetings were sometimes up to 100 people.

* Wizards (catchskating) -- basically "freeze tag" on inline skates. It turned out to be a good team sport, and more accessible than inline hockey. Common teams were 2 catchers VS 5 runners and 3 VS 7. There were compettions, Luhansk and Donetsk teams were best there. I think this game originated from Russia

* Season opening -- yearly spring event when weather becomes warm enough for skating, and people from Ukraine, Belarus and Russia gather together in Kyiv for grand mob skating. I think record goes to 1000 skaters of all ages.

* Night riders -- freeskating empty streets at night was common and even had weekly schedules. Bikers sometimes participated too

* Downhill -- Kyiv has many hills, so people quickly learn the fun of downhill. We had teams, night downhill trainings, maps of good and bad DH, and so on.

* all kinds of tricksters -- slalom, slides, jumps. This was copied from russian and french FSK tournaments. (at time Kyiv had very few skateparks)

2014+ -- war happened and we lost Russia, Luhansk and Donetsk teams. This probably was the most disrupting event for whole movement. Ban of Vkontakte had cut many contacts and communities.

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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> It does not mean ‘fear of homosexuals’ (regardless of etymological considerations). It does mean "fear of being perceived as homosexual". There are backwards people. The stigma that some may ascribe, is rarely removed. If they are in a position of power, this can hurt you professionally or socially, despite modern moral standards.

Fear of being perceived as a homosexual is a type of homophobia, but homophobia is not necessarily a fear of being perceived as a homosexual.

I don't think most people are arguing about that. Some post that puts forth "it doesn't mean this it means that" can be charitably added to with additional interpretation rather than "wrong. it's THIS". Dead-end true-scotsman argument.

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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Well there's a more fundamental dependency we don't have an answer to - Is it common in either language (or perhaps English is used in this context) to make fun of things that disgust you by calling them gay? Growing up in the Midwest of the US in the early 90s, I knew to call things 'gay' if I wanted to discourage my friends from doing them much earlier than my Christian parents allowed me to find out the secret of…

it's easy for people to look at 90's/2000's vernacular and assume a level of explicit bigotry that simply was not necessarily present. kids will always be drawn to an easy shorthand to use as a pejorative, preferably one that distinguishes them from earlier generations and makes their parents mad. they will probably start using the term through osmosis without even understanding its webster definition because that wo…

Not sure. We all knew what it meant when I was a kid in the 90s. That doesn’t mean that people were thinking homophobic thoughts every time they called something gay. But the underlying idea that being gay was icky and bad was perfectly well known to all of us at the time.

Society finally seems to have figured out that using ‘gay’ as an insult is homophobic and wrong. However, on the way to that realization, we did have to go through a long period of various groups of people insisting that they had their own special definitions of ‘gay’, ‘fag’, etc. that allegedly had nothing to do with the ordinary meanings of these words. It retrospect I think it’s clear that protests of this sort were all entirely specious (with the exception of young kids who simply didn’t know what they were saying).

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Fear of being perceived as a homosexual is a type of homophobia, but homophobia is not necessarily a fear of being perceived as a homosexual.

I don't think most people are arguing about that. Some post that puts forth "it doesn't mean this it means that" can be charitably added to with additional interpretation rather than "wrong. it's THIS". Dead-end true-scotsman argument.

I think you’ve got slightly the wrong end of the stick. No-one thinks that rollerblading went out of style because people were afraid of gay people. So the OP’s inaccurate (or at best overly narrow) assumption regarding what ‘homophobia’ means is leading them to misunderstand the claim about what happened. These days the term ‘homophobia’ is very rarely used to refer to a literal phobia of gay people.

(The OP said ‘fear of homosexuals’, not ‘fear of being perceived as homosexual’.)

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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What is freeskiing? I have never heard that term Edit: googled it, and it appears to be a snow sport... not sure how that would be a competitor to rollerblading? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeskiing

freeskiing::inline. the tricks and the motions are the exact same, you can just go bigger/faster/higher and there is more money in it. i can only speak anecdotally but pretty much all of the of the 'serious' rollerblade kids i knew growing up went over to competitive skiing because that's where the opportunities were.

Do you have any links? I am still unable to find anything besides snow versions when googling.

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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> Then the term "tramp stamp" caught on like wildfire and the practice came to an abrupt stop. In Germany, the same happened, but via the term "Arschgeweih" ["ass antler"]. For the readers who understand German: there also existed a song "Bye Bye Arschgeweih" by Ina Müller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIY1SZ_boEQ (the song title is of course a pun on the refrain line "Bye-bye, Miss American Pie" of the song Ameri…

Ass antler. That is hilarious.

I just found out that the variant "arse antlers" actually seems to be used in Britain (source: https://deen.dict.cc/?s=Arschgeweih).

Re: What the Heck Happened to Rollerblading? (2017)

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Do yourself a favor and wear wrist guards when you skate or snowboard. A fall on an outstretched hand (FOOSH) can easily rupture your scapholunate ligament. This is an injury that often cannot be repaired, and eventually leads to arthritic degeneration called scapholunate advanced collapse (SLAC). The standard of care for SLAC currently involves fusing the wrist bones, which of course means you can't no longer move your wrist. So wear your wrist guards!
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