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Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Post by SavantIdiot »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #9
dgfitz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sincerely, do you get tired of this train of thought? It’s exhausting for me to attempt to constantly think in this paradigm.

It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else. There must be some odd entertainment factor to it that you and I don’t understand. I don’t know what it’s like to be so self-certain and absolute that I would take on responsibility of social internet police.

> It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else.

I never understood why people get so angry at other people for showing solidarity, even if they aren't part of the oppressed group.

Why does it make you so mad? Seriously, I don't get it.

Is it because no one stands up for you?

Standing up for a minority group that you are not part of is called being part of a community, it is literally what solidarity is all about. I know that is hard for a lot of people on HN to understand, this place is rife with mythology of bootstraps & rugged individualism.

By your insane logic, the only person who can stand up for someone is that one person. Maybe that is what you want?

I'm just baffled by the anger.

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

#43

Post by koheripbal »

kennywinker wrote: post #14
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for following up with that. I think linking an onion article from seven years go definitely adds context to your point of view.

Oh, sorry is the joke not funny because it’s 7 years old? Because I noticed that “women are bad drivers” jokes have been around since the 1920s…

Im not sure this is the right website for you.

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

#44

Post by SV_BubbleTime »

SavantIdiot wrote: post #41
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else. There must be some odd entertainment factor to it that you and I don’t understand. I don’t know what it’s like to be so self-certain and absolute that I would take on responsibility of social internet police.

> It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else. I never understood why people get so angry at other people for showing solidarity, even if they aren't part of the oppressed group. Why does it make you so mad? Seriously, I don't get it. Is it because no one stands up for you? Standing up for a minority group that you are not part of is called being part of a comm…

Perfect example of a strawman argument. Not angry and never expressed anything like it, but that’s is the entirety of your reply.

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Post by someguy101010 »

rini17 wrote: post #26
nerdponx wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this accepted convention? It sounds a lot like the explanation for chronic Lyme disease (except with nerve tissue and not fat cells), which is apparently still quite controversial despite having lots of anecdotal evidence to support it. Also if the parasite is hiding in your fat cells, does that also mean that you can't detect it in a blood test?

Hmm it is possible I confused it with chlamydia. In any case, if it affects behavior, there should be some chemical markers too.

Well jeez which one is it man! (Asking for a friend)

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Post by [deleted] »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #44
SavantIdiot wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else. I never understood why people get so angry at other people for showing solidarity, even if they aren't part of the oppressed group. Why does it make you so mad? Seriously, I don't get it. Is it because no one stands up for you? Standing up for a minority group that you are not part of is called being part of a comm…

Perfect example of a strawman argument. Not angry and never expressed anything like it, but that’s is the entirety of your reply.

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Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Post by smogcutter »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #24
Pyramus wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the dose-response is the interesting bit, and strong indication for causation. Not an expert so don't know how well we understand the mechanism of action, which is crucial.

The paper states high up that it's been well studied that Toxoplasmosis infection increases reaction time - this study was basically just showing that that laboratory-viewed metric has real-world consequences. As far as mechanism of action, T. gondii infects both neurons in the brain and glial cells.

*decreases reaction time

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

#48

Post by throwaway0a5e »

mortenlarsen wrote: post #42

I wonder what BAC would generate the same effect.

There's no universe in which the answer to that question doesn't piss a lot of people off.

On one hand you remind people just how un-impaired various BACs are and that pisses them off.

On the other hand you make mildly sick people look like drunks and it becomes a potential pretext for denying people freedom of movement.

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Post by nahnahno »

smogcutter wrote: post #47
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The paper states high up that it's been well studied that Toxoplasmosis infection increases reaction time - this study was basically just showing that that laboratory-viewed metric has real-world consequences. As far as mechanism of action, T. gondii infects both neurons in the brain and glial cells.

*decreases reaction time

Increases reaction times is right == slows reaction

Re: Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis (2002)

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

SavantIdiot wrote: post #41
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else. There must be some odd entertainment factor to it that you and I don’t understand. I don’t know what it’s like to be so self-certain and absolute that I would take on responsibility of social internet police.

> It’s common now for people actively seeking any opportunity to be offended on behalf of someone else. I never understood why people get so angry at other people for showing solidarity, even if they aren't part of the oppressed group. Why does it make you so mad? Seriously, I don't get it. Is it because no one stands up for you? Standing up for a minority group that you are not part of is called being part of a comm…

>I never understood why people get so angry at other people for showing solidarity, even if they aren't part of the oppressed group.

There's a pretty wide gulf between solidarity and getting offended on other people's behalf. If a slight doesn't effect you then you shouldn't be the first mover. Let the slighted people decide they are in fact slighted before you get all up in arms over it

>Why does it make you so mad? Seriously, I don't get it.

Because it's selfish behavior that makes everything worse. It's the social discourse equivalent of tossing a cigarette butt on the ground. Society can absorb a couple bad actors but if everyone starts doing it the park will be trashed.

>Standing up for a minority group that you are not part of is called being part of a community,

There's a fine line between standing up for others and making the decision for them. A lot of this outrage on others behalf is

>By your insane logic, the only person who can stand up for someone is that one person. Maybe that is what you want?

You're intentionally taking his position to an absurd extreme because that's the only way to make yours look reasonable. Of course we can all get pissed off about known bad things, racial slurs and that kinda stuff. But a quip about crazy cat people being twisted as somehow being a sexist joke? Get the F outta here.

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