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Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate

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Re: Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate

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Post by Santosh83 »

There is no absolute guarantee that SciHub or any other site will always manage to survive the impressive array of forces against it.

As far as I can see, the most robust fallback has to be some kind of distributed data store that can mirror humanity's vital information on the widest possible array of computer/storage systems, and which would literally take an apocalypse to wipe out. Depending on one brave person to fight what should be our common battles (and we do that everywhere, the heroes are always lonely at the top while their actions benefit all of us) is disappointing.

Data has to be duplicated massively or it is always extremely vulnerable. DNA figured this out billions of years ago.

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Post by londons_explore »

lcvw wrote: post #5

I really hope sci-hub survives this. Sci-hub and libgen are like an entirely different internet, one allowing you to dive as deep as you wish into any technical subject. There’s really no comparison I have found anywhere for the depth of material available. People always point to Wikipedia, but all of that is surface level. If you to build something, research something, or just really delve into it, there’s no substi…

I really wish someone could build a better UI for this research internet.

Hyperlinks for all references would be a good start. Finding some way to make some automatic glossary of definitions of technical terms would make scientific papers substantially more accessible too.

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Post by londons_explore »

btilly wrote: post #10

In https://twitter.com/ringo_ring/status/1414342378765307907 she jokingly asks where her Nobel Peace Prize is. Given how often that prize is given out as a bully pulpit to advance a cause, and given the global debt that science owes to her, I think she really does deserve one.

Start nominating...

Re: Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate

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Post by andyxor »

Santosh83 wrote: post #11

There is no absolute guarantee that SciHub or any other site will always manage to survive the impressive array of forces against it. As far as I can see, the most robust fallback has to be some kind of distributed data store that can mirror humanity's vital information on the widest possible array of computer/storage systems, and which would literally take an apocalypse to wipe out. Depending on one brave person to…

all Sci-hub articles are duplicated via torrents, you can help by seeding the torrents https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/nc27fv/rescue_...

there is also some ongoing work moving to IPFS that could use help, see https://freeread.org/ipfs/ and https://github.com/sci-hub-p2p/sci-hub-p2p/ , it seems to have IPFS support https://sci-hub-p2p.readthedocs.io/_en/ipfs.html

Re: Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate

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Post by cblconfederate »

It's kind of whimsical to read the praise of sci-hub and fear about its future here. Tech people have access to pools of billions and billions of dollars that are casually being thrown on mindless minor addictions that offer nothing to humanity. Can't someone make an initiative or startup that disintermediates those very old publishers who are trolling science?

Re: Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate

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Post by jacquesm »

I just noticed something funny: The library of Alexandria was accidentally burned in 48 BC by Julius Ceasar. Here we are in 2021, we now have Alexandra's library, which rivals the first in size and scope, and there are at least as many forces trying to burn it. But fortunately this one is digital and you too can have a copy in your hallway closet for the price of some harddrives and bandwidth.

Go make a backup, if you can afford it, and let's make sure that this one sticks around.

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Post by elcritch »

londons_explore wrote: post #12
lcvw wrote: post #5

I really hope sci-hub survives this. Sci-hub and libgen are like an entirely different internet, one allowing you to dive as deep as you wish into any technical subject. There’s really no comparison I have found anywhere for the depth of material available. People always point to Wikipedia, but all of that is surface level. If you to build something, research something, or just really delve into it, there’s no substi…

I really wish someone could build a better UI for this research internet. Hyperlinks for all references would be a good start. Finding some way to make some automatic glossary of definitions of technical terms would make scientific papers substantially more accessible too.

DOI URIs work great and sci-hub understands them. Figuring out the DOI from the citations section is a bit more annoying still. A meta glossary would be fantastic. 80% of learning a new field is figuring out the jargon.

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Post by namdnay »

cblconfederate wrote: post #16

It's kind of whimsical to read the praise of sci-hub and fear about its future here. Tech people have access to pools of billions and billions of dollars that are casually being thrown on mindless minor addictions that offer nothing to humanity. Can't someone make an initiative or startup that disintermediates those very old publishers who are trolling science?

They have access to poils of billions of dollars because they are expected to aim to return multiples of those billions.

How would a startup reach unicorn valuation based on publishing scientific papers? By making people pay. So we’re back to square one

No, for some problems private enterprise is not necessarily the best solution

Re: Today Sci-Hub is 10 years old. I'll publish 2M new articles to celebrate

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Post by mmiliauskas »

jacquesm wrote: post #17

I just noticed something funny: The library of Alexandria was accidentally burned in 48 BC by Julius Ceasar. Here we are in 2021, we now have Alexandra's library, which rivals the first in size and scope, and there are at least as many forces trying to burn it. But fortunately this one is digital and you too can have a copy in your hallway closet for the price of some harddrives and bandwidth. Go make a backup, if yo…

I always wondered if for knowledge as for ecosystems fire is an important part. Basically, is there a point where the amount of knowledge is so wast that it becomes impossible to reach the edge and come up with something novel.
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