It really feels like "federated" is to tech geeks (i.e. HN people) what "blockchain" is to a lot of non-tech people. What does federated do for me at all in solving this problem?
BookWyrm is a federated Goodreads replacement
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#12I'm not too familiar with the fediverse model. I noticed that registration is closed on the primary instance bookwyrm.social.[1] Is the ideal use case of bookwyrm for each user to host their own instance? Like this one: https://book.dansmonorage.blue/
As a user, I wouldn't want to sign up on someone's hobbyist bookwyrm instance only for them to shut it down later and lose all my data.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly wonder sometimes if HN is the best place to market a lot of the things that get posted here. A lot of people on HN are developers and I think they post here because it’s _their_ community but in reality it’s actually not a good fit for a lot of products. Maybe some dev/SAAS things, but something like Goodreads? That should be marketed to readers, not developers. The only reason it gets posted here is becau…
I don’t see this as marketing to get new users. It’s more showing peers something interesting you found or are working on. Of course they’ll be happy to get some users from hn, but I suspect that isn’t really the goal here.
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#14It really feels like "federated" is to tech geeks (i.e. HN people) what "blockchain" is to a lot of non-tech people. What does federated do for me at all in solving this problem?
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#15It really feels like "federated" is to tech geeks (i.e. HN people) what "blockchain" is to a lot of non-tech people. What does federated do for me at all in solving this problem?
None of this federated stuff will ever gain mainstream acceptance. I would bet my house on it. It adds multiple layers of complexity and a ton of UX trade-off, and doesn't solve any problems for a typical user.
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#16Just had a look. Unsurprisingly, the demographic of the user base is skewed to IT professionals (at least at this time). Whether that’s a good thing is subjective, but I personally want broader perspectives on literature. I think this will be a difficult problem for bookwyrm to overcome.
This is a problem with any similar thing that already has a heavily established site. One is my hobbies is boardgames. The longest running site is Board Game Geek (BGG). It’s age shows (this was the front page of the site until very recently https://www.boardgamegeek.com/dashboard ), but more modern competitors have had issues trying to get a foot hold. The most recent one is Board Game Atlas. They have tried all kin…
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#17Very excited to see a decentralized alternative to Amazon-owned Goodreads & LibraryThing, the latter which I recently learned is 40%-owned by Amazon through a subsidiary AbeBooks. I'm not too familiar with the fediverse model. I noticed that registration is closed on the primary instance bookwyrm.social.[1] Is the ideal use case of bookwyrm for each user to host their own instance? Like this one: https://book.dansmon…
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#19It really feels like "federated" is to tech geeks (i.e. HN people) what "blockchain" is to a lot of non-tech people. What does federated do for me at all in solving this problem?
it means that there's a protocol there, at the heart, for having multiple parties cooperating. it means anyone is free to build their own server or client. it meams we're not all trapped in one walled garden, one silo, it means the freedom to innovate & evolve.
right now there is not a lot of models for how we the peoe can host things online in an interoperable way. we can still use http & the technology that we have (unlike block chain), but we can use well defined vocabulary (https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#activity-t...) & protocols as a base to communicate & interweave social networking systems.
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#20"A portion of the proceeds go towards the Yunakin land tax." An _Anti Corporate_ organisation adopting a very corporate measure in my view. If taxes could lead to justice, then native Americans would be far less prone to poverty, alcoholism and depression. About the product itself, it's hard to see how this is an alternative to goodreads. The federation is designed in a way that silos communities. A great model for d…
You seem to have taken the exact opposite view of what anyone in the fediverse would consider this as. This is many connected communities. Not siloed. That's what "decentralized" means, their very first major point on the website.
If there's real gaps in how federation works to connect, the fediverse is happy to discuss, adapt, & adopt: bring on your more specific complaints! This is supposed to be the cure for silos! Everyone can run whatever they want, and we can interoperate! Interoperate & co-evolve.