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Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

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Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

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Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.

I wonder if that's a partial goal of this law. Keep the state red and have those who are more liberal leave. Ensures a nice voting block for national elections and ensures local officials do not get voted out in the future.

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

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post #8

>The ban leaves enforcement up to individual citizens, enabling them to sue anyone who provides or "aids or abets" an abortion after six weeks. i'm kind of puzzled by that extension of legal standing to everybody. I mean anybody who notices say a woman losing a bit of weight and that basically allows to file a suit, trigger discovery, and now the woman should prove that it was just a morning exercises? It takes Neghb…

Don't live in Texas so not really paying attention to this, but normally a lawsuit is filed when one has suffered a loss or harm. How does a third party claim any loss or harm giving him standing to sue in this situation?

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

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post #8

>The ban leaves enforcement up to individual citizens, enabling them to sue anyone who provides or "aids or abets" an abortion after six weeks. i'm kind of puzzled by that extension of legal standing to everybody. I mean anybody who notices say a woman losing a bit of weight and that basically allows to file a suit, trigger discovery, and now the woman should prove that it was just a morning exercises? It takes Neghb…

Don't live in Texas so not really paying attention to this, but normally a lawsuit is filed when one has suffered a loss or harm. How does a third party claim any loss or harm giving him standing to sue in this situation?

As far as I understand that's one of the more insane parts of this law. You don't need to show you suffered any harm or loss, absolutely anyone can sue under this law.

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

#14

Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.

I wonder if that's a partial goal of this law. Keep the state red and have those who are more liberal leave. Ensures a nice voting block for national elections and ensures local officials do not get voted out in the future.

Yes. I literally drew the Texas congressional lines in 2000 that set all this in motion and the primary goal of everything the state party does is to purge the state of people that don't vote Republican.

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

#16

Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.

Abbott is up for re-election in ~one year, though.

Edit: this isn’t to say Democrats will or won’t win…but it’s also not to say Abbott won’t simply get primary’d out.

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

#17

Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.

Abbott is up for re-election in ~one year, though. Edit: this isn’t to say Democrats will or won’t win…but it’s also not to say Abbott won’t simply get primary’d out.

And if Beto will get out of the way and run for Lt Governor (where the real power is) so McCaughey can run for Governor we might turn things around

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

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> Sec. 171.208. CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR ABETTING VIOLATION. (a) Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may bring a civil action against any person who: (1) performs or induces an abortion in violation of this subchapter; (2) knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, regardless of whether the person knew or should have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in violation of this subchapter;

Where is the line drawn? Can you sue govt officials for providing electricity and building roads to abortion clinics?

What about Google Maps and Navigation for showing the clinic on the map and showing the directions? Google knows everything from your searches, browsing, emails, calls and texts that you're pregnant and going to get an abortion.

Can you be or act pregnant and ask people nearby for directions to the abortion place and then sue them?

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

#19

Good. I live here and can't leave fast enough. This state is a mess.

I wonder if that's a partial goal of this law. Keep the state red and have those who are more liberal leave. Ensures a nice voting block for national elections and ensures local officials do not get voted out in the future.

I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. - apocryphally credited to Admiral Yamamoto

Re: Lyft, Uber lash out at legal threat from strict Texas abortion law

#20
I don't understand business as well as I would like to, but I wonder if these companies are sensing how much trouble they'll have keeping drivers if they can become collateral damage in social oppression. I'm not used to seeing these taxi companies offer potentially a fortune's worth of services to any of their drivers, but this law is unusually reckless, even by (de facto) abortion ban standards.
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