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U.S. companies lash out at Texas law changes, including abortion ban

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Re: U.S. companies lash out at Texas law changes, including abortion ban

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All of these companies, starting with Uber, should immediately terminate accounts of Texas Republican law makers and ban any further service to them. That would be a real first step in fighting this law.

That would be illegal

Re: U.S. companies lash out at Texas law changes, including abortion ban

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Abortion is really a very simple issue, those who say it is about "regulating women" attack a straw man. Pro-lifers believe that abortion is murder of the baby. This trumps a woman's right for a medical procedure. So the question about whether it's a private medical choice or an issue of bodily autonomy doesn't even enter into the discussion. There are laws against murdering someone other ways that restrict bodily au…

In which case it's very simple: Is a fetus/embryo a baby or not? And what is the logical conclusion of that?

Embryo, not fetus. It is not a fetus until many weeks after the 6 week cutoff.

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"Looking at the abortion law, or the gun law, or the voting law, it's a form of vigilante justice, where you're empowering individuals to enforce the law," said Tyson Tuttle, the CEO of Austin-based Silicon Laboratories (SLAB.O). "It's been a rough week in Texas and a harbinger of what's to come across the country." I'm from across the pond, and have spent limited time in the US - none of it in Texas - but I always t…

America is a huge country and we've been discovering over the last decade that we are a lot more divided than we realized. It's like combining France, Germany, England, Spain and Italy into one country and expecting them to agree on everything. Luckily in America we can just move to a state where reasonable people run things.

I don't understand this argument, though. You can make it about literally any group that includes more than two people.

If it means that you can't say anything about a large group of people, I'm not sure I agree, given that most countries can agree on enough things to be governed. I'm not exactly sure what the point of the argument is.

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"Looking at the abortion law, or the gun law, or the voting law, it's a form of vigilante justice, where you're empowering individuals to enforce the law," said Tyson Tuttle, the CEO of Austin-based Silicon Laboratories (SLAB.O). "It's been a rough week in Texas and a harbinger of what's to come across the country." I'm from across the pond, and have spent limited time in the US - none of it in Texas - but I always t…

Abortion is really a very simple issue, those who say it is about "regulating women" attack a straw man. Pro-lifers believe that abortion is murder of the baby. This trumps a woman's right for a medical procedure. So the question about whether it's a private medical choice or an issue of bodily autonomy doesn't even enter into the discussion. There are laws against murdering someone other ways that restrict bodily au…

I don't see how it matters whether the fetus is alive or not. If it can't survive outside the mother then the mother has the right to kill it.

If you caused a car accident which lead to the other person needing a kidney transplant that only you can provide should you be required to give up a kidney? I don't see how abortion is different. Either way you made a risky choice that you knew could cause someone's life to be dependent on you. That doesn't mean you're forced to save the person.

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Those who enact law against abortion should have to Google "trisomy 13 cyclops" (warning: NSFL) on a large projector in public and have their reactions broadcast. I can't even find the worst image in an older case study I'm thinking of right now, but damn has Google images of it gotten worse since I last looked.

Some life is simply incompatible with life.

Re: U.S. companies lash out at Texas law changes, including abortion ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Abortion is really a very simple issue, those who say it is about "regulating women" attack a straw man. Pro-lifers believe that abortion is murder of the baby. This trumps a woman's right for a medical procedure. So the question about whether it's a private medical choice or an issue of bodily autonomy doesn't even enter into the discussion. There are laws against murdering someone other ways that restrict bodily au…

In which case it's very simple: Is a fetus/embryo a baby or not? And what is the logical conclusion of that?

Or it would be simple, if it wasn't split 50/50.

Funny how no one cares they're murdering billions of baby fish by eating pregnant fish and caviar.

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"Looking at the abortion law, or the gun law, or the voting law, it's a form of vigilante justice, where you're empowering individuals to enforce the law," said Tyson Tuttle, the CEO of Austin-based Silicon Laboratories (SLAB.O). "It's been a rough week in Texas and a harbinger of what's to come across the country." I'm from across the pond, and have spent limited time in the US - none of it in Texas - but I always t…

Human rights are a binary thing: either you are a human and you have them, or you are not a human and you don't have them. IMO it all comes down to when we define the bag of cells to be a human being. Once the bag of cells is a human being murdering it is obviously a crime.

IMO any view point between the first cells are already a human being to it becoming a human at birth are valid. Why not settle this in a referendum once and for all? If the vote is close to 50-50 maybe a more regional referendum would make sense to maximise happines with the outcome.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Abortion is really a very simple issue, those who say it is about "regulating women" attack a straw man. Pro-lifers believe that abortion is murder of the baby. This trumps a woman's right for a medical procedure. So the question about whether it's a private medical choice or an issue of bodily autonomy doesn't even enter into the discussion. There are laws against murdering someone other ways that restrict bodily au…

In which case it's very simple: Is a fetus/embryo a baby or not? And what is the logical conclusion of that?

The viability standard of Roe v Wade is not about personhood but about physical dependency.

In other words, it’s not murder, and is ethical, to pull the plug on someone who’s hooked to your body to survive, if there is no other way to save them.

This is a very enlightened stance imo, and inductively implies abortion will one day be both illegal and in low demand.

Re: U.S. companies lash out at Texas law changes, including abortion ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Abortion is really a very simple issue, those who say it is about "regulating women" attack a straw man. Pro-lifers believe that abortion is murder of the baby. This trumps a woman's right for a medical procedure. So the question about whether it's a private medical choice or an issue of bodily autonomy doesn't even enter into the discussion. There are laws against murdering someone other ways that restrict bodily au…

In which case it's very simple: Is a fetus/embryo a baby or not? And what is the logical conclusion of that?

>Is a fetus a baby or not?

The question seems to be:

"When is a fetus considered a separate life?" or perhaps "When does a fetus become a baby?"

That's a lot harder to define than you might think. (At least that's the argument ...) Pro-life people tend to see a cut and dried answer to that, where Pro-Choice people tend see it as a bit more ambiguous.

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