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How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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> Just like we don't have Asianas and Asianos, and we can simply say Asians. south americans. your comment is the embodiment of the hola, my Latinx friends meme.

Most Latinos in the US are of Mexican origin. Mexico is not in South America.

Then the term there is Latin Americans

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If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole here, break your brain, probably ruin your career and seriously damage your ability to interact with woke culture ever again, you can listen to an interview with the author of the book, "The Transgender Industrial Complex" in which the author alleges with copious documentation that the transgender movement is complete astroturf. He did deep research to discover where the tr…

I mean I dated a transgender person, were they being paid or something? explain to me what was going on there.

They were being influenced. Influence is real. Advertising is not a trillion dollar business because it doesn't work.

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On a related point, what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west. I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK and USA for example. Is this because we can identify these conditions much better now? Maybe. I don't have the background to say for sure. There is a real fear in society though that woke schools of thought are a harmful influence t…

If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole here, break your brain, probably ruin your career and seriously damage your ability to interact with woke culture ever again, you can listen to an interview with the author of the book, "The Transgender Industrial Complex" in which the author alleges with copious documentation that the transgender movement is complete astroturf. He did deep research to discover where the tr…

This is fairly obvious if you read fashion magazines. It is presented constantly in the same way that bell-bottoms or skateboarding shoes used to be. Which doesn’t mean that it’s all made up, but it does certainly appear to be amplified by the media.

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I don't really see the big issue with Latinx... it seems to me an easy and correct way to refer to latinos and latinas, without saying both, or one or the other, or bringing in gender. Just like we don't have Asianas and Asianos, and we can simply say Asians. It makes less sense to add an s to Latin because Latins refers to something completely different already. Language is constantly changing. As long as references…

> I don’t really see the big issue with Latinx…

Here’s the issue:

English had the word “Latin” which was gender-nonspecific, and meant exactly what Latinx is used for.

It fell out of favor, being replaced with Latino/Latina (used with the same gender rules as in Spanish) specifically because it respected the language and cultured of the people to whom the label was applied.

Recently, some have adopted Latinx in place of Latino as the neutral in semantic gender form (specifically in the Hispanic LGBTQ community, it is one of several forms that small minorities have adopted in part to express identities which specifically reject the gender binary [others include latine and latin@.) While the various forms used for emphatic rejection of the binary do have some uses, the breadth of the use to which many major – mostly institutions have adopted Latinx as a general term for the Hispanic community outside of an LGBTQ context is unwarranted, especially given that it is (1) unnecessarily unpronounceable, (2) awkward in English and Spanish, and most importantly (3) almost entirely rejected by the target community, where the overwhelming majority of the tiny minority even aware of the term reject it, preferring Hispanic (mostly) or Latino (less preferred than Hispanic, but vastly preferred to Latinx) as the generic term, if one must be used.

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I don't really see the big issue with Latinx... it seems to me an easy and correct way to refer to latinos and latinas, without saying both, or one or the other, or bringing in gender. Just like we don't have Asianas and Asianos, and we can simply say Asians. It makes less sense to add an s to Latin because Latins refers to something completely different already. Language is constantly changing. As long as references…

> Just like we don't have Asianas and Asianos, and we can simply say Asians. south americans. your comment is the embodiment of the hola, my Latinx friends meme.

Cubans, Mexicans and many other are not South Americans.

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I recommend anyone who spends a lot of time thinking about this type of thing to take a break for a few months in a country that doesn't indulge it, e.g. Russia.

It's either intersectionality or Russia?

What about old liberal ideals?

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On a related point, what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west. I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK and USA for example. Is this because we can identify these conditions much better now? Maybe. I don't have the background to say for sure. There is a real fear in society though that woke schools of thought are a harmful influence t…

> what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west Big Pharma marketing initiatives, as they have to sell hormone blockers and other drugs to help transition transgender people are their revenue, even if someone isn’t actually transgender, but has doubts/insecurities, money doesn’t smell

Those drugs are all generic for the most part. Nobody is making big money off of them.

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>I don't really see the big issue with Latinx... it seems to me an easy and correct way to refer to latinos and latinas, without saying both, or one or the other, or bringing in gender. I see two issues in Spanish, one in English, and two in general. The only viable way to read this word in Spanish would be /latinks/, and it's against the language's phonotactics. So if you must replace the gender mark with something…

> It is not necessary though, simply because grammatical gender is not social gender. There are a thousand ways to conceal the gender of someone in Spanish - refer to "la persona" (always feminine, no matter if you're referring to a man), plurify (the plural will take the masculine for mixed groups), so goes on. Or even, you know, use the default grammatical masculine, like the RAE recommends? Granted the RAE is a bu…

Spanish blurs the line between non-personal pronouns and determiners, so two things might happen: either the word "defaults" to the masculine, or it's actually being used as a determiner, with the noun omitted - then it gets the gender of the omitted noun. A bunch of them are also genderless, such as "quién" [who], "cual" [which], etc.

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> practical definition of "left" and "right" is "no hierarchy" vs "hierarchy" Absolutely not: it's the left that's usually the favor of giving more power to the most oppressive and monopolic hierarchy there is, the government, while the right is fighting to dismantle it.

I take it you haven't talked to many leftists, then. We're quite anti-authoritarian and opposed to hierarchy. If you consider US democrats to be "left", you are sadly mistaken.

True leftists are anti-authoritarian, therefore every leftist that is authoritarian is actually not a leftist.

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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On a related point, what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west. I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK and USA for example. Is this because we can identify these conditions much better now? Maybe. I don't have the background to say for sure. There is a real fear in society though that woke schools of thought are a harmful influence t…

If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole here, break your brain, probably ruin your career and seriously damage your ability to interact with woke culture ever again, you can listen to an interview with the author of the book, "The Transgender Industrial Complex" in which the author alleges with copious documentation that the transgender movement is complete astroturf. He did deep research to discover where the tr…

What you describe as "fascinating" is just a crazy conspiracy theory. The link you give also just throws homosexuality and bisexuality in there as well and while not exactly saying that all those things are "unhealthy for a society" basically alledges this in the first few sentences.
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