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How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by bengold14 »

nradov wrote: post #15
Barrin92 wrote: post #7

I'm glad that the Economist points out at the end that 'wokeness' has become a favorite of business, and the reason is pretty obvious, as a movement it's self-defeating because all identitarian politics eventually ends in infighting, with its subjective, choice and preference based worldview it's actually ill-equipped to move anything. It might exist in academia or PR departments or journalism or facebook pages and t…

Leftist movements tend to consume themselves in escalating purity spirals. https://unherd.com/2020/01/cast-out-how-knitting-fell-into-a...

> Nor is it confined to the Left: neo-Nazi groups offer some of the clearest examples of purity spirals

Seems like your own linked article says it's not just a leftist thing?

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by bitwize »

bluedino wrote: post #30
908B64B197 wrote: post #2

I still don't get the term latinx. Have they considered... Latin . As in, Latin America, for instance?

Hispanics don't get it either.

One of my favorite responses to this came from a Mexican on Twitter and was something to the effect of "Fuck off, pendejx."

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by unity1001 »

the_only_law wrote: post #79
watwut wrote: post #76

I like how after yesterdays Texas law, it is woke that is a threat to freedom. How did fundamentalism jumped to real life?

> How did fundamentalism jumped to real life? It’s always been in real life. Funny enough, there are some cultural remnants of certain leftists from the 90s/00s where they were the ones railing against “political correctness” in attempt to shock the religious right of the time. The way I see it things have simply reversed as the religious right seemingly lost ground over the past years and progressives became more pr…

Not applicable. The 'wokeness' in US largely encompasses things like minorities not tolerating being denigrated, debased, harassed anymore. Not even talking about things like nudity in beaches, abortion and other bullsh*t in which US still stays back 150 years in the past in US.

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by crooked-v »

rvz wrote: post #51
belltaco wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>A great way to confuse the general public and push an agenda to create a culture of silencing anyone opposed to view points someone disagrees with. Can you give me some examples of the viewpoints you're referring to here?

Plenty of examples in the article if you have already read it. Example of enforcing this with cancellations: > Even as students began scouring the words of academics, administrators and fellow students for microaggressions, the oppressive slights embedded in everyday speech, and found them, complacency ruled. which was later enforced... > When invited speeches from people such as Christine Lagarde, then head of the I…

The only thing new or unique about this supposedly "cancel culture" stuff is that it's liberals making effective use of public moral arguments instead of conservatives.

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by EvilEy3 »

badRNG wrote: post #37

It seems like this question could be asked at any period of social conflict historically in the West. How did ideas that were once extremely radical like women's equality in the social sphere (to include holding office and suffrage), desegregation, slavery abolition, and many more work their way from the intelligensia (academics, philosophers) to the masses? How did "Marxism" jump from academia to workers in the late…

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Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by busterarm »

bluedino wrote: post #30
908B64B197 wrote: post #2

I still don't get the term latinx. Have they considered... Latin . As in, Latin America, for instance?

Hispanics don't get it either.

Indeed. The only ones I've ever seen push it in the workplace are the ones that never learned how to speak Spanish. Telling.

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by missblit »

decremental wrote: post #27
serverholic wrote: post #10

I think this is the result of the gradual femininization of our culture. It started with the feminist/gender-studies types and slowly caught on. Not because people necessarily wanted to change, but cancel culture makes it so that you can't risk nonconforming. At first it was little things like switching to softer language and giving kids participation trophies so that they don't feel bad. Now it's spread to the point…

People on this forum/website might not like it but you're basically dead on. Everyone can see this is what's happening. Outside of this bubble, normal people see it. Our enemies abroad see it. The only people trying to suppress us talking about it are the people trying to inflict it upon us.

Well feminization is the completely wrong word for one thing, since being feminine is totally A-OK and not anything negative.

Ain't nothin' wrong with flowers and dresses and whatnot even if people on this website might not like it!

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by unity1001 »

the_only_law wrote: post #86
tazjin wrote: post #14

I recommend anyone who spends a lot of time thinking about this type of thing to take a break for a few months in a country that doesn't indulge it, e.g. Russia.

This probably isn’t the argument you think it is. Many reactionaries seem have a romanticized view of Russian culture and probably would be fine there.

No, actually they have no idea how Eastern European cultures are, less Russia. They would stick out like a sore thumb, they would be shunned, treated with distance for being foreigners. Being 'christian' wouldnt do literally sh*t.

The only places where they would be getting treated normally would be ironically places with more woke Russians - ie Russian liberals, educated, woke people. Who would not shun others for being foreigners and who would not exhibit automatic/traditional Russian behaviors of suspecting/shunning strangers and being closed to them.

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Post by busterarm »

bitwize wrote: post #92
bluedino wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hispanics don't get it either.

One of my favorite responses to this came from a Mexican on Twitter and was something to the effect of "Fuck off, pendejx."

I laughed _so hard_ at this and am going to steal it.

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by biswaroop »

tazjin wrote: post #14

I recommend anyone who spends a lot of time thinking about this type of thing to take a break for a few months in a country that doesn't indulge it, e.g. Russia.

Interesting you mention Russia. The leadership of Russia spends a lot of time thinking about how to denigrate LGBTQ+ folks. Racism is alive and thriving in Russia. They even recently went through the trouble of decriminalizing first time domestic violence. Could you elaborate on why you think a trip to Russia would be useful to [eta:American] progressives?
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