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Re: Ask HN: How to deal with loved ones that are affected by fake news?

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The very next line: > Four trials were cluster-RCTs, with all participants in the intervention clusters required to wear masks, thus assessing both source control and personal protection > In two [of the four] trials the clusters were households with a member with new influenza; neither of these studies found any protective effect > In two [of the four] trials the clusters were college dormitories during the influenz…

Nobody wants to wear a mask! > Reality is messy. I understand that in this era of "alternative facts" the view is not universally shared, but I do believe that reality contains objective truths if only we can get at them. Either masks hinder the spread of germs (in the prior this has high probability based on logic and the experience of many years) or they don't. We are down to four trials now instead of nine, and on…

Let me rephrase: If you feel the need to wear a mask, do it. If not, don't.

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> in the prior this has high probability based on logic and the experience of many years

Reality can be counter-intuitive if you put your logic and experience to the test. Famous example: Using diuretics for antidiuretic effects [1]

Even a banal situation like wearing a face mask during surgery leads to inconclusive results [2]. Does it increase or decrease the number of cases of wound infections? There seems to be no clear evidence atm

[1] https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/15/11/2948

[2] https://www.cochrane.org/CD002929/WOUNDS_disposable-surgical...

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with loved ones that are affected by fake news?

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People that believe the official covid narrative are the ones affected by fake news in my opinion. I wish people could see how their freedom is being taken away everyday and anything that goes against big pharma is labelled fake news. I'm certain if you speak out against the CCP killing off Uyghurs in China then that is labeled as "fake news" in China. I'm almost certain this comment will get flagged. Which will prov…

If you say something that is 1) false, 2) political, and 3) aggressive in tone, getting flagged does not prove that what you said was in fact true. Don't take the flagging as confirmation of the correctness of your position. It doesn't work that way.

Who decides what is false and based on what?

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with loved ones that are affected by fake news?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> not to argue with anyone on anything unless I have an interest in I have an interest in my dad not dying, however remote the chance might be, from a preventable disease. However, his anti-covid-vaccine stance makes him a danger to himself and others from this imminent threat.

TBH I don't really think it's something easy to do. You will probably have to go around somehow. Arguing about facts seldom works. Maybe he has someone he listens to so it's time to find out whom it is.

> You will probably have to ...

Sorry, I'm done.

> Maybe he has someone he listens to ...

Maybe. But in my experience he has a teflon ego, no humility and no self awareness. Also I've got my own life to live and a burgeoning family.

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