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I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

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Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Focus on mastering stuff that doesn't change, or changes slowly. AKA Fundamentals :)

AKA, be a backend developer, because tech changes less frequently there and backend devs get more respect than front end and "full stack" devs, regardless of how talented they are. Sorry I said it, but it's true.

When non-programmers think of developers they always imagine front end devs. Rarely do they understand the distinction or specialization of programming roles.

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

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Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

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Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

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Haha. I ignored the web dev scene for a year or two to work on something else. Angularjs vanished and nobody will hire you unless you have worked with react. Rest is gone and everyone is obsessed with graphql. Kubernetes really took off. React alone isn’t enough though, it’s nextjs and everyone is looking into trendy redux replacements now. Typescript is everywhere. Everyone assumes you can’t code your way out of a p…

As a back end Dev it looks like build tooling has largely materialized into a few choices and doesn’t change as fast.

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#54

Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals."

I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old).

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#55
I was asked to do a take home interview question the other day in which from scratch I had to create a react app with an API. I literally spent two days looking at what the state of the art solutions are for typescript react apps and node APIs. It’s impossible to stay up to date I think!

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#56

Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals." I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old).

Maybe that was for the better? Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#57

Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals." I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old).

> I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old)

Sounds like they did you a favor. Who’d want to work for people like that?

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#58

Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals." I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old).

That's absurd, but at least it saved you from having to work in an environment that valued appearance over substance?

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#59

Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, I find it really hard to get a job saying, "I'm acquainted with CS fundamentals." I once got bounced from a job interview for not knowing about a quirk of the newest XCode (less than a week old).

You only need one job so yeah you will get rejected by trick question interviews but it shouldn’t stop you getting work

Re: I completely ignored the front end development scene for 6 months. It was fine

#60

Obsession with the latest frameworks and the proclivity to refer to someone as an "X developer" for some X ∈ {popular frameworks} is a sign of ignorance/immaturity, both for developers and hiring managers. Those with a solid understanding of the underlying principles (both computer science theory and, in the case of front-end development, the core web standards) are the best positioned to make the most impactful cont…

None of this is true. The latest frameworks aren’t just “trends”, like fashion. They’re improved ways of doing things. Better, simpler, more reliable. Advocating to use tech that changes slowly, or avoid latest frameworks is advocating being slower and less productive.

There’s a cost to learning a new framework that may outweigh the incremental benefits, especially if you have to do it every few years.
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