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Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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Post by SunghoYahng »

Apfel wrote: post #68
SunghoYahng wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understand, Mochi is one of so many "Pretty Anki"s. Maybe it's better than Anki because it's Prettier. But, of course, compared to Note Garden, it's sloppy. It is very outdated in that you have to create cards one by one. The cards that are made even after doing the labor are just messed up cards that are not connected to each other.

This is a pretty unpleasant response. Your app very strongly fits my interests but your replies have put a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm sorry if my expressions sounded unpleasant. I had no intention of doing that. It may have sounded that way because I am not sensitive to expressions in English. But I wanted to emphasize that if Mochi made Anki better, our app is a complete upward compatibility with it. Sorry to be rude once again. I also have a strong love for this app, so I think I was being harsh.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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Post by knubie »

SunghoYahng wrote: post #13
usrme wrote: post #8

To those interested in a more modern-looking Anki (minus the Notion as in the OP): I do suggest having a look at Mochi ( https://mochi.cards/ ). As someone new to spaced repetition ( https://ncase.me/remember/ ) it's been absolutely amazing and I can't praise their support highly enough for being so responsive! It's one of the better subscriptions I've opted for.

As I understand, Mochi is one of so many "Pretty Anki"s. Maybe it's better than Anki because it's Prettier. But, of course, compared to Note Garden, it's sloppy. It is very outdated in that you have to create cards one by one. The cards that are made even after doing the labor are just messed up cards that are not connected to each other.

Mochi has something similar to this in the notebook view, although I prefer a Zettelkasten style of note taking myself.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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Post by jmnicolas »

chriskanan wrote: post #54

Have you thought about a strategy for when someone starts having many cards to review? I used Anki daily throughout my PhD to never forget a ton of machine learning and math. I used it for about 7 years daily (PhD + postdoc + 1.5 years) and I had around 20,000 cards. I just had to review them every day and I basically seemed like a fountain of knowledge. But a year into my professorship, I just didn't have time to do…

> as the number of cards to review piled up into the thousands.

As far I remember there was a feature to address this in SuperMemo.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#84

Post by wizzwizz4 »

SunghoYahng wrote: post #81
Apfel wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a pretty unpleasant response. Your app very strongly fits my interests but your replies have put a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm sorry if my expressions sounded unpleasant. I had no intention of doing that. It may have sounded that way because I am not sensitive to expressions in English. But I wanted to emphasize that if Mochi made Anki better, our app is a complete upward compatibility with it. Sorry to be rude once again. I also have a strong love for this app, so I think I was being harsh.

The main issue was “it's sloppy” and “very outdated”. “Sloppy” implies lack of care went into its creation, which is often seen as an attack on the creator(s). “Very outdated” is imposing your idea of what's “new” and “old” onto your contemporaries, then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronological_snobbery on top of that.

Apart from that, your comment was a fairly objective criticism. When criticising, you should write down all the things you want to criticise, then (without removing any) re-write it so it's as kind as you can to the thing you're criticising. Especially if you're comparing it to something of your own.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#85

Post by eyeball »

SunghoYahng wrote: post #49
medntech wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have quite a few other rude, dismissive responses on this thread. Turned me away from their product.

Maybe I'm being rude, but if you miss the chance to use Note Garden for that reason, I'll call you an idiot.

Salesman of the year award goes to ….

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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Post by knubie »

auslegung wrote: post #58

Nitpick: I think "Study different" should be "Study differently". Here's why in case you care. Different is an adjective, which describes a noun. Differently is an adverb, which describes a verb. The sentence "study different" has an implicit subject "you", so it could be written "you study different". This makes it more obvious that "different" is trying to describe the verb "study", not the noun "you".

I think it’s a nod to Apple’s “Think different.“

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#87

Post by knubie »

lhousa wrote: post #59
usrme wrote: post #8

To those interested in a more modern-looking Anki (minus the Notion as in the OP): I do suggest having a look at Mochi ( https://mochi.cards/ ). As someone new to spaced repetition ( https://ncase.me/remember/ ) it's been absolutely amazing and I can't praise their support highly enough for being so responsive! It's one of the better subscriptions I've opted for.

The app is HUGE on ios. Should have been smaller.

Wow, you’re right, I need to get that size down. I probably included some files in the building that aren’t needed.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

SunghoYahng wrote: post #25
u40as7 wrote: post #22

Interesting project! Wondering if it’s open source ? Also I’d be interested to know a little more about the translation from notes to testing. To me it seems when I’ve used Anki that it takes great care and time to make a well formed question. A poorly formed question has a massive detriment in knowledge recall. Just wondering how you’ve managed to bridge that dilemma to automate the process. Very interested in contr…

Sorry, this is a commercial project, not open source. In fact, if this fails, we will starve. Anyway, it is the core of this app that automatically connects the naturally written note-taking into a form that can use Spaced Repetition. It's hard to explain in more detail, but I hope you enjoy the experience of being able to use Spaced Repetition for the content by simply taking notes in outliner form. Anyway, thanks f…

“Commercial” is not incompatible with “open source”. If you have a policy of “release last year's version under AGPLv3” (and then buy indefinite proprietary licenses for the best community patches off their authors), we'll all benefit from open source without you having competitors leeching off your work.

In fact, some companies can do it with no time delay, like https://plausible.io – but, of course, it depends on your business model and your field.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#89

Post by SecurityLagoon »

Gave this a shot in guest mode.

It sounds promising in theory and I agree that linking the Q/A cards to more detailed notes and tree structure is useful but in implementation it felt very clunky and I did not gel with the UI at all. The most immediate issue was that identifying how to actually markdown the notes into a usable question and answer format wasn't clear from the brief description in the intro document. The tool REALLY needs a tutorial. After I worked that out though the "learn" tab just felt like any other SR flashcard app and it didn't present the notes in any useful way to make it better than a well curated Anki deck.

I've never really tried anything except Anki, Memrise and now this app but it's just hard to recommend this over Anki, as a widely accepted and open source standard. I found this frustrating to use.

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