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UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

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Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

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Why does the freedom to infect others outweigh the freedom to survive a preventable disease? You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the social compact to follow as it suits you.

These people want to not have the vaccine AND to work at home so they don't infect others. You'd have a point if they wanted the right to remain unvaccinated while demanding they be allowed to work in the office. Would you prefer if companies just fired everyone who, for whatever misguided reason, don't want the vaccine?

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

#14
The fact that anyone would think it is the responsibility of employers to force others to do anything... just amazing. You know that there is a system already in place to do that, right? It is even designed to guard against abuses that businesses aren't equipped for: this is a function of government. If you want to force your vision of the world on others - lobby the government, that is what it is there for.

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

#15

Why does the freedom to infect others outweigh the freedom to survive a preventable disease? You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the social compact to follow as it suits you.

Vaccines don't prevent transmission, you are not helping anyone but yourself with the vaccine, except for not making yourself into a burden for the medical infrastructure.

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

#16

Won't this create an incentive not to get the vaccine in order to continue working from home? Or to lie about your vaccination status? Companies should either institute broad vaccine mandates, or allow both vaccinated and unvaccinated employees to work from home, or bring everyone back to the office. Any policy tying your wfh status to vaccines will be abused. If anything, employees who get the vaccine should be the…

Two clicks ahead they explain that "Hamers is rolling out a permanent hybrid working model for the firm globally, allowing at least two thirds of its employees to mix work from home and the office. Traders are part of the “25% to one third" of the bank’s staff for whom it is “really difficult" to work from home". Those people are banned for entering the bank buildings if they don't have a vaxx proof, so it's either get the jab or get out.

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

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post #12

Why does the freedom to infect others outweigh the freedom to survive a preventable disease? You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the social compact to follow as it suits you.

These people want to not have the vaccine AND to work at home so they don't infect others. You'd have a point if they wanted the right to remain unvaccinated while demanding they be allowed to work in the office. Would you prefer if companies just fired everyone who, for whatever misguided reason, don't want the vaccine?

Is "vaccine refuser" a protected class or something inalienable about a person? Does everyone have the right to work anywhere they wish? Plenty of other vaccines are required to attend college and to participate in other parts of society, why is this vaccine different?

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

#18

The fact that anyone would think it is the responsibility of employers to force others to do anything... just amazing. You know that there is a system already in place to do that, right? It is even designed to guard against abuses that businesses aren't equipped for: this is a function of government. If you want to force your vision of the world on others - lobby the government, that is what it is there for.

I don't agree that the government exists to social engineer society.

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

#19

Won't this create an incentive not to get the vaccine in order to continue working from home? Or to lie about your vaccination status? Companies should either institute broad vaccine mandates, or allow both vaccinated and unvaccinated employees to work from home, or bring everyone back to the office. Any policy tying your wfh status to vaccines will be abused. If anything, employees who get the vaccine should be the…

My local Amish people work, shop and live together every day. No vax. And their health is unchanged.

I think that the threat posed by covid, and the necessity of the vax, has been exaggerated.

Re: UBS CEO: Those who don’t want the vaccine can work from home

#20

The fact that anyone would think it is the responsibility of employers to force others to do anything... just amazing. You know that there is a system already in place to do that, right? It is even designed to guard against abuses that businesses aren't equipped for: this is a function of government. If you want to force your vision of the world on others - lobby the government, that is what it is there for.

I would love it if the government required vaccination but the last time the government did something controversial, a bunch of looters and thugs stormed the US Capitol and killed several police officers.
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