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Re: Web-based editor

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Post by goto11 »

ausudhz wrote: post #31
throwaway47292 wrote: post #20

It seems we are moving to a world of magic, where developers will be alchemists, and only a handful of people will understand "physics" or "chemistry" and know what is actually going on in the cloud, serverless, fileless, functionless development. Since google translate and google maps, I always ask myself, what is the real price for this very convenient and engaging product.

I see this happening a lot with the young engineers. Very few of them really know what's happening under the hoods.

Does anybody really know anything which goes on under the hood, all the way down to transistors? I think it is half a century since this was even possible for a single person.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by Vespasian »

cube00 wrote: post #13
amitport wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it scary?

It's the end of being able purchase any kind of perpetual license to your software. It'll all be on the web and it will be paid per month. When that meets a company with an aggressive sunset policy or if they have an outage it won't be a good time.

It probably requires updating user protection laws to deal with new business models and enforce interoperability.

We are still in the Wild West Phase of SAAS.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by debarshri »

ausudhz wrote: post #31
throwaway47292 wrote: post #20

It seems we are moving to a world of magic, where developers will be alchemists, and only a handful of people will understand "physics" or "chemistry" and know what is actually going on in the cloud, serverless, fileless, functionless development. Since google translate and google maps, I always ask myself, what is the real price for this very convenient and engaging product.

I see this happening a lot with the young engineers. Very few of them really know what's happening under the hoods.

I am pretty much sure engineers from late 70s said the same for young engineers. Same for the engineers from 80s for those in 90s. And the trend continues. I think servers becomes the new processors and the abstraction gets higher and higher.

It is the nature of evolution whether you like it or not.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by chrisco255 »

gtirloni wrote: post #21
azalemeth wrote: post #14

Am I alone in not jumping on the Visual Studio [Code] bandwagon? Other online editors have had "vim modes" for ages (e.g. Overleaf) and frankly I'm unlikely to write a chonking great script or project in a browser on Github -- a minor modification is much more likely. VS Code's codebase is huge . Will Github allow people to use other $EDITORs? (Yes, I'm aware this makes me sound like an old man!)

Are the other $EDITORS able to run inside a web browser?

Gotta be web-based and only other major one I know of is Atom, which was originally started by GitHub and is also owned by Microsoft now. Don't know if people are still using it much though.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by dgb23 »

cube00 wrote: post #13
amitport wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it scary?

It's the end of being able purchase any kind of perpetual license to your software. It'll all be on the web and it will be paid per month. When that meets a company with an aggressive sunset policy or if they have an outage it won't be a good time.

Seems unlikely. Even if that is a trend right now, if there is a need for other paradigms, then there will be people making and using them.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by throwaway47292 »

goto11 wrote: post #41
ausudhz wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this happening a lot with the young engineers. Very few of them really know what's happening under the hoods.

Does anybody really know anything which goes on under the hood, all the way down to transistors? I think it is half a century since this was even possible for a single person.

haha maybe Christopher Domas knows :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmTwlEh8L7g [x86 god mode]

but there is a difference between knowing vaguely how internal combustion engine works versus treating your car as a magic box from the future. (which of course now most cars are, you can not even disable the tire pressure alert after you pump your tires without going to the service shop)

I fear that nobody will even teach the fetch-execute cycle to our kids.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by raxxorrax »

vvoyer wrote: post #24

The amazing part is that it's all divs, spans, CSS and very smooth. Congrats!

Well, nobody uses to render a table because it has so much baggage that it is incredible slow (implicit calculations for width/height for every cell etc.).

These super fast super browsers we have today? You can kill all of them if you render a table with around 500.000 cells.

So yes, many people use divs and spans for the same functionality.

Re: Web-based editor

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Post by asicsp »

maxioatic wrote: post #18

You can open any GitHub repository in the web-based editor in the following ways: - Pressing the dot ( . ) key while browsing any repository on GitHub. - Change the URL from "github.com" to "github.dev". rad

>Pressing the dot ( . ) key while browsing any repository on GitHub

Is there a way to disable this option? (to avoid accidentally opening up the editor). Couldn't find info on this from the linked page.

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