Is this Codespaces without the ability to build and debug?
Web-based editor
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#12Finally. I've been waiting for this since 2009 when the Bespin project emerged. But now I'm afraid they will occasionally deprecate the offline VSCode or make it a paid option.
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#13Its scary we're heading towards a situation where everything is done in a browser. Maybe Chromeos really is the future.
Why is it scary?
It's the end of being able purchase any kind of perpetual license to your software. It'll all be on the web and it will be paid per month. When that meets a company with an aggressive sunset policy or if they have an outage it won't be a good time.
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#14Am I alone in not jumping on the Visual Studio [Code] bandwagon? Other online editors have had "vim modes" for ages (e.g. Overleaf) and frankly I'm unlikely to write a chonking great script or project in a browser on Github -- a minor modification is much more likely. VS Code's codebase is huge. Will Github allow people to use other $EDITORs?
(Yes, I'm aware this makes me sound like an old man!)
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#15It looks like this is actually just the editor from Visual Studio Online unless I've missed something. It's great, but if it were really Visual Studio Code that would be awesome and I'd be pleasantly surprised. (The difference being that if it's just the editor it misses out on all the compiler/analysis integrations. If Github were providing Linux containers in the cloud for working on projects - essentially the SSH…
> Because there is no associated compute, you won’t be able to build and run your code or use the integrated terminal. Only a subset of extensions that can run in the web will appear in the Extensions panel and can be installed. Likewise, support for certain programming languages may be more limited in the web.
That's a shame, but at the same time a big step forward.
Azure has had this for a few years now (unless there's upgrades in the Github version I'm not aware of) and it's been really useful for quick edits - will be good to see it develop now that it's sure to pick up much more use through GH.
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#16Is this Codespaces without the ability to build and debug?
Yes, pretty much. Also with some limits on the available extensions as everything runs in your browser.
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#17Am I alone in not jumping on the Visual Studio [Code] bandwagon? Other online editors have had "vim modes" for ages (e.g. Overleaf) and frankly I'm unlikely to write a chonking great script or project in a browser on Github -- a minor modification is much more likely. VS Code's codebase is huge . Will Github allow people to use other $EDITORs? (Yes, I'm aware this makes me sound like an old man!)
And I still use Netbeans. It really is also not worse than the electron monstrosity VS Code (memory/cpu wise).
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#18You can open any GitHub repository in the web-based editor in the following ways:
- Pressing the dot ( . ) key while browsing any repository on GitHub.
- Change the URL from "github.com" to "github.dev".
rad
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#19Its scary we're heading towards a situation where everything is done in a browser. Maybe Chromeos really is the future.
Why is it scary?
With a piece of software I physically own and that has an offline activation mode (tips hat to Jetbrains), I can be reasonably certain that I can keep using it for as long as I can maintain some kind of virtual machine for the host OS. I will not be affected in my usage of the software by any decision the software maker decides to do in the future - think UI overhauls, deprecation of features -, the balance of my bank account or the software maker goes bankrupt or bought out.
If I am skilled enough, I can mod the piece of software to do whatever I want (this especially applies to games), or can swap out pieces with other pieces (e.g. replace the built-in compiler of an IDE with a different one).
A pure SaaS environment? I'm completely at the mercy of the operator now. I am locked in into whatever decision the operator makes, I depend on them keeping their service available 24/7 (because when they go down, I can't work and make money), I depend on them not getting bought out by a competitor that then decides to close up shop (either to get rid of competition, acqui-hire or the specific SaaS service is unprofitable), I'll have to pay whatever price the operator wants (which is particularly insidious given the SV model of price dumping, monopoly formation and subsequent extortion), and in most if not all cases I have no way of modification (userstyles/userscripts just don't work in compiled JS/CSS apps any more without a lot of work). And to top it off, for many SaaS solutions I have to pay money to keep using it under a contract, which is an obligation on my future budget.
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#20It seems we are moving to a world of magic, where developers will be alchemists, and only a handful of people will understand "physics" or "chemistry" and know what is actually going on in the cloud, serverless, fileless, functionless development.
Since google translate and google maps, I always ask myself, what is the real price for this very convenient and engaging product.