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Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

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I hate to be a downer, but I found the following using anki - so basically anything with SM2 algorithm, no matter the UI - as a learning tool for my tech notes: 1) it doesn't scale. You'll be overwhelmed with repetitions once you're in the high hundreds, and you will be if using Q/A style questions. And what's your daily strategy once it hits thousands? 2) I've converted all my notes from libreoffice writer to anki u…

What you say is pointless, because Note Garden was created to solve those problems.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#33
post #30

I hate to be a downer, but I found the following using anki - so basically anything with SM2 algorithm, no matter the UI - as a learning tool for my tech notes: 1) it doesn't scale. You'll be overwhelmed with repetitions once you're in the high hundreds, and you will be if using Q/A style questions. And what's your daily strategy once it hits thousands? 2) I've converted all my notes from libreoffice writer to anki u…

Note Garden solves those problems by exploiting the tree structure and properly connecting it to SR algorithm. In fact, Note Garden doesn't even use a Q/A style.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#34

I hate creating notes on the computer. I wish e-ink devices would implement some good spaced repetition to their hand written notes apps. When I do use the computer for notes it's hard to beat Anki or org-drill.

"It's better to do this by hand than on a computer" was a common saying before software was sufficiently advanced. That word has always changed. And now is the time. The moment when the utility of doing digitally exceeds the utility of doing it manually.

It was never a utility problem, digital always beat physical in almost all regards there ('flicking through' notwithstanding). It's an input problem: some (many?) people just prefer to write.

(And maybe output? I didn't realise at first, but now seems more likely GP is referring to e-paper devices being easier on the eyes.)

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#35
post #30

I hate to be a downer, but I found the following using anki - so basically anything with SM2 algorithm, no matter the UI - as a learning tool for my tech notes: 1) it doesn't scale. You'll be overwhelmed with repetitions once you're in the high hundreds, and you will be if using Q/A style questions. And what's your daily strategy once it hits thousands? 2) I've converted all my notes from libreoffice writer to anki u…

What you say is pointless, because Note Garden was created to solve those problems.

Quite a rude response as these are just observations from someone who invested a lot of time into this niche.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#36
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you say is pointless, because Note Garden was created to solve those problems.

Quite a rude response as these are just observations from someone who invested a lot of time into this niche.

Sorry for leaving a rude reply. I had no intention of being rude. But you're talking about Anki, not Note Garden, and the shortcomings of Anki you mentioned are what we've been trying to overcome so far.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#37
post #30

I hate to be a downer, but I found the following using anki - so basically anything with SM2 algorithm, no matter the UI - as a learning tool for my tech notes: 1) it doesn't scale. You'll be overwhelmed with repetitions once you're in the high hundreds, and you will be if using Q/A style questions. And what's your daily strategy once it hits thousands? 2) I've converted all my notes from libreoffice writer to anki u…

Anki does scale. It won’t ask a new user to review too many cards per day. As cards are memorized the increasingly spaced intervals make room for new cards. So if you dump a thousand cards in at once, which you shouldn’t do, you’ll be directed to load them into the memorization process over several weeks of daily reviewing.

Agree that most notes from other documents don’t make good cards. Making your own cards is worth the time spent, for the most part, although there are plenty of standard decks you might as well clone (Greek letters, as a simple example.)

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#38

I downloaded it and installed it, but could not try as it requires a signup with email! 1. The feature set on paper is impressive, but there should be a way of trying out the limited features in offline mode, without requiring a mandatory sign-up. So consider adding a demo mode both in the downloaded and web version. 2. Is there a way to host data locally? 3. The Privacy policy & Terms of service take forever to load…

1. Originally, there was the function for trying it out without sign-up, but that function was removed. Our marketers didn't want that feature. I'm sorry. 2. It can't be. But you can use the app offline or by exporting & importing local data. 3. I'm sorry. I have nothing else to say but to reload. It's fine on our side.

Well, throw me in the bucket of people who've been lost by that decision. Sounds potentially interesting, but I'm by no means invested enough already to go through the whole account creation thing just to try it.

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#39
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's better to do this by hand than on a computer" was a common saying before software was sufficiently advanced. That word has always changed. And now is the time. The moment when the utility of doing digitally exceeds the utility of doing it manually.

It was never a utility problem, digital always beat physical in almost all regards there ('flicking through' notwithstanding). It's an input problem: some (many?) people just prefer to write. (And maybe output? I didn't realise at first, but now seems more likely GP is referring to e-paper devices being easier on the eyes.)

It’s not only that some people “just prefer to write”, there is published research[0] showing that writing things down by hand performs better in context of learning.

[0] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.0181... / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24714990

Re: Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Originally, there was the function for trying it out without sign-up, but that function was removed. Our marketers didn't want that feature. I'm sorry. 2. It can't be. But you can use the app offline or by exporting & importing local data. 3. I'm sorry. I have nothing else to say but to reload. It's fine on our side.

Well, throw me in the bucket of people who've been lost by that decision. Sounds potentially interesting, but I'm by no means invested enough already to go through the whole account creation thing just to try it.

After reading your comments, Our marketers just decided to add the function to use the app as a guest again. So now you can use the app without signing up. Isn't it good?
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