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Re: Stop Death Shaming

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Post by ogogmad »

savanaly wrote: post #8

I'm always aghast when I go on social media or Reddit and see all the things people say about the unvaccinated dead. I can scarcely believe that the folks that post those things are nominally on the same side as me on most issues of substance. I get past it by telling myself that there are always tons of bots and shills in the pay of all manner of nation states and organizations trolling those exact places posting wh…

The "Darwin Awards" once had an unnerving degree of pop culture acceptance.

[edit] They might still.

Re: Stop Death Shaming

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Post by taeric »

savanaly wrote: post #8

I'm always aghast when I go on social media or Reddit and see all the things people say about the unvaccinated dead. I can scarcely believe that the folks that post those things are nominally on the same side as me on most issues of substance. I get past it by telling myself that there are always tons of bots and shills in the pay of all manner of nation states and organizations trolling those exact places posting wh…

The bots and shills angle is about all I have to hold onto sanity right now. Would be great to know the actual numbers.

Or terrifying.

Re: Stop Death Shaming

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Post by dundarious »

eventreduce wrote: post #3
broberts01 wrote: post #2

They should be shamed. It would be fine if they didn't take the vaccine and stayed home but they don't do that. They go to the hospital and take up valuable bed space that I would argue thy don't deserve. I realistically don't know how much the intent is to persuade people to get the vaccine. As they point out, it wouldn't be a good strategy, but at this point, not much is going to change a person's mind over it anyw…

Most people do not "deserve" bed space because most sickness is selfmade. People smoke, drink and eat too much, so they all deserve to die?

Habitual lifestyle factors are not the same as the exogenous novel coronavirus.

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Post by wycy »

magwa101 wrote: post #4

We get really upset about drunk driving. Smoking indoors and in particular around kids. We're going to get similarly mad unvaccinated people taking others down with their Darwin Awards.

The worst part is most of the people covid takes down have already reproduced, disqualifying them from Darwin Awards.

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Post by Legion »

eventreduce wrote: post #3
broberts01 wrote: post #2

They should be shamed. It would be fine if they didn't take the vaccine and stayed home but they don't do that. They go to the hospital and take up valuable bed space that I would argue thy don't deserve. I realistically don't know how much the intent is to persuade people to get the vaccine. As they point out, it wouldn't be a good strategy, but at this point, not much is going to change a person's mind over it anyw…

Most people do not "deserve" bed space because most sickness is selfmade. People smoke, drink and eat too much, so they all deserve to die?

You overeating doesn't give everyone else around you diabetes.

I'm never going to buy the attempts to equate getting a personal preventable illness with willful and malicious disregard of the health of everyone surrounding you.

We're pretty understanding of a person who struggles with alcoholism. We're a whole lot less understanding when they choose to get behind the wheel.

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Post by emilsedgh »

eventreduce wrote: post #3
broberts01 wrote: post #2

They should be shamed. It would be fine if they didn't take the vaccine and stayed home but they don't do that. They go to the hospital and take up valuable bed space that I would argue thy don't deserve. I realistically don't know how much the intent is to persuade people to get the vaccine. As they point out, it wouldn't be a good strategy, but at this point, not much is going to change a person's mind over it anyw…

Most people do not "deserve" bed space because most sickness is selfmade. People smoke, drink and eat too much, so they all deserve to die?

In smoking, drinking, eating too much, there are pleasures. Thus, making it difficult for people to stop. Stopping them requires fighting real urges. That's why they deserve sympathy.

In not getting vaccinated there's no pleasure. Only stupidity and ignorance.

Re: Stop Death Shaming

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Post by tomohawk »

It's amazing how years of anti-vax nonsense went nowhere.

But, in a few months, all of this shaming and politicizing have done so much damage.

Public health rests on trust, not mocking, not shaming, not coercion.

Re: Stop Death Shaming

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Post by crazy_horse »

Reddit has a subreddit dedicated to this. I understand the justifications and the frustration, but so much of that is people being hateful. I've seen everything from race, hair style, weight, religion, etc mocked because the people deserve it. I think it's the most toxic part of humanity.

I hope reddit closes hateful subs like this. Here is a similar article about that sub.

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/herman-cain-awards

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